Preview Webinar: New Creative Production and Communication Courses at UTS

Matthew Dabner: Hello, everybody. Thanks for joining us at the School of Communication Student Parent Webinar on New Creative Production and Communication courses. We've started just a little bit early.

Matthew Dabner: Just to make sure that, you know, you knew that we were coming, and, so we'll just leave it another minute or two, just in case there are any, you know, late, late arrivals, so‚

Matthew Dabner: We'll get started momentarily.

Matthew Dabner: I'll give it to just one or two minutes past the hour, just to make sure we have everybody who is intending to join, and ‚ we'll get underway.

Matthew Dabner: I should note that a copy of the video recording, and this is being recorded, will be sent to everybody in a couple of days as well.

Matthew Dabner: Alright, the anticipation's killing me.

Matthew Dabner: I think we should start. I mean, the number seems to have settled anyway. So, welcome everybody, and, you know, I'm really pleased that you've come along on this wet and rainy day, here in Sydney to, you know, have a little chat about

Matthew Dabner: The new and exciting changes we've made to our Creative Production and Communication courses, which will be starting in 2026, or enrolling for 2026.

Matthew Dabner: Oh, hang on.

Matthew Dabner: First technical thing.

Matthew Dabner: I'd just like to start by acknowledging the Gadigal people, the

Matthew Dabner: Boo Rabangul people of the Darug Nation, and the Bijigal people of the Gamigal people, upon whose ancestral lands our university stands, and pay respects to elders past, present, and emerging, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians for these lands.

Matthew Dabner: So welcome again. This is an exciting moment for us to kind of bring you some information about the changes that we have been cooking up for our, you know, creative production and communication courses, here at the UTS School of Communication.

Matthew Dabner: So, I'm Matthew Dabner, I'm Course Coordinator of the Creative Production Courses, which you'll hear about in a second. I'm joined by Dr. Natalie Krakawa, who is Course Coordinator for the communication courses, and by Professor Rachel Landers, who is Head of Discipline for Animation, Media Arts, and Music and Sound Design.

Matthew Dabner: So, the structure of today's webinar is we're just going to give you, ‚ we're going to have a brief, kind of, like, maybe 10-15 minute introduction of what the changes to the courses are. There will be time for Q&A at the end.

Matthew Dabner: There is a chat in which you can, you know, put all of your questions, so we'll probably hold questions until the end, but if anything comes up as we're sort of rolling through, you know, this introduction to these new‚ these newly changed courses, you know, please put it in the chat.

Matthew Dabner: So yeah, today's focus is a preview of, you know, some work we've been doing to streamline our degrees for 2026, and we're going to sort of talk about the major key changes and opportunities that have come up through that process. You know.

Matthew Dabner: really, to be honest, we put this webinar together 11 days before our open day, because we wanted you to be able to be aware that these new changes were coming, to be aware of the changes in the course names. For example, you might have been, you know, thinking for the last year or so that you're really excited to be, you know, enrolling or applying to the Bachelor of Communication and Media Arts, for example.

Matthew Dabner: and production, and, you know, you were hoping to come along to Open Day and hear all about that, and we just didn't want you to be surprised.

Matthew Dabner: when you show up on August 30th at Open Day, and realize that that has‚ that course is, you know, has a name change, it's now the Bachelor of Creative Production in Media Arts, and what do those changes mean, right? So this is sort of our opportunity to give you a little bit of a heads up, about those changes.

Matthew Dabner: The other kind of reason for doing this is that the course changes don't really go live on our website until the 29th of August, for reasons that are too boring to mention. And the handbook, which is really where you go to find out what subjects are available and what, you know, the course structures are, et cetera, et cetera, doesn't go live until the 2nd of September. So, this is the first sort of, I guess, step toward giving you the

Matthew Dabner: information that you need to make the, you know, enrolment choices or application choices that you need in respect of the courses that we offer. So, yeah, I think I'll just get along with it.

Matthew Dabner: I guess so, I wanted to start by kind of saying here is what, you probably are already aware of in terms of what the School of Communication offers. As you can see on the screen, we have, a Bachelor of Communication, which is offered in a number of different disciplines, including, as you might see there, Media, Arts and Production. And we have these two stand-alone degrees.

Matthew Dabner: The Bachelor of Animation Production, and the Bachelor of Music and Sound Design.

Matthew Dabner: They also come in various combinations in terms of combined degrees. We offer them with the Bachelor of Creative Intelligence Innovation. Currently, we offer them with the Bachelor of International Studies, which I'll talk about a little bit later, and also some of those come with a law combination offer as well.

Matthew Dabner: So the changes, in a nutshell, are that we have taken, media arts out of the communications suite, and we have pulled those together, that one together in a suite with animation and music and sound design to create what we are calling the Bachelor of Creative Production.

Matthew Dabner: In comms, we're also kind of just doing some slight name changes to a couple of the courses, so Writing and Publishing becomes creative writing, and the old strategic communication course becomes public relations and advertising.

Matthew Dabner: So I've just got to, for legal purposes, say at this point in time, a little bit of a disclaimer. You know, we have what they call Cricos codes, which is part of our kind of, you know, I guess, requirements for advertising these courses, specifically to international students.

Matthew Dabner: these‚ majority of these courses are retaining and keeping their same CYCOS codes, but there are a couple that are being updated, and that is still in process. So, just be aware that, you know.

Matthew Dabner: for compliance purposes, I've had to say that.

Matthew Dabner: I guess if you have been following in the news, you will have heard, about UTS, that we are in a process of, I guess the university leadership, is looking at ways to, you know.

Matthew Dabner: save money. And some of the courses that we do offer, particularly in international studies and in education, have had their enrolments suspended for 2026.

Matthew Dabner: That doesn't mean that they're necessarily, you know, being discontinued, but there is a processing going on at the moment about whether or not that is going to be the case. And so all I can say to you is that the combined courses of all of these courses

Matthew Dabner: with, international studies is not going to be on offer for 2026, but watch this space. There's lots of discussions going on around that, and we'll see if the university leadership teams

Matthew Dabner: Wishes, end up, you know, being prevailed in that particular situation.

Matthew Dabner: So why are these changes? Well, we regularly review and update our courses to ensure that they're up-to-date and future-focused, but also mostly to ensure that we are maximizing the employment opportunities of our graduates.

Matthew Dabner: by teaching you the skills that you will need when you get out into industry. So this is something that we do every five years. It's part of our, you know, accreditation with the national governing body of tertiary education, you know, suppliers, and this is really where this, this sort of change has come from.

Matthew Dabner: So let's talk first about the Bachelor of Creative Production.

Matthew Dabner: As I said, there's, the three courses that will sit in this suite, the Bachelor of Creative Production in Animation, in Media Arts, and in Music and Sound Design.

Matthew Dabner: And we will also have a Bachelor of Creative Production Honours, which will be a fourth, you know, optional fourth year for students in these degrees. So I'm going to throw now to Professor Rachel Landers, who's going to just give us a little brief introduction to the world of BCP.

Rachel Landers: Hello, welcome to the webinar. What we're doing in our world, my world, next year with the Bachelor of Communicat‚ of, Creative Production, is the most exciting thing that I've encountered in my 10 or so years of working in, university

Rachel Landers: screen work. What we've done is really thought‚ we had a standalone animation degree, we had a standalone music and sound degree, we had

Rachel Landers: media arts, which is basically live screen, sitting in the communication thing. Obviously, we thought we could bring them together, bring them together in a really thoughtful way.

Rachel Landers: What's unusual about this, a lot of, tertiary film schools, are very much‚ you are kind of a little bit like a washing machine in first year. We're not doing that. We are really encouraging people to specialize early, to come in to

Rachel Landers: with an animation focus, with a media arts focus, or a music and sound design focus, but then we join you up through the cause. And we also allow you to taste and learn from each other of those majors by doing sub-majors.

Rachel Landers: But the great thing is we still give people the opportunity to take electives, from the communications degree as well. So it is a rich, rich, rich cornucopia of offerings. It's very focused.

Rachel Landers: it's being, budgeted. I think parents will be interested that we are being budgeted as creative arts, which is a lot, cheaper than an arts degree, a general, tertiary humanities degree.

Rachel Landers: What's incredible, too, is that we want our students to come together in this fourth year, and to specialise and to cross-pollinate and work together.

Rachel Landers: we think‚ we know, I think, we've got extraordinary students currently. What we're going to give them the opportunity is to embroider projects together, to build up really strong networks, and to really go forth and revolutionize the industry.

Rachel Landers: Matthew and I both come from the Australian Film and Television School. We came over here by choice, because we were really excited about what's happening at UTS.

Rachel Landers: We're members of SELECT, which is an international group of tertiary film schools. There's 180 members. It's very hard to become a member of the organization. There are 6 Australian members. ‚

Rachel Landers: So we know very much, we've been very careful about benchmarking us as internationally, and, you know, I can say with real pride, I think this is going to be the best degree.

Rachel Landers: looking at screen arts and production and animation and music and sound design in the country. So there you go.

Matthew Dabner: Thank you, Rachel.

Matthew Dabner: All right, so what does that mean in practice? Let's have a look and see what some of the differences or the changes that we're making are.

Matthew Dabner: So, as Rachel has said, we're going to have a common core of subjects, three, six credit point subjects, which all students in the creative production fields take together, one in year one, one in year two, one in Year 3.

Matthew Dabner: So, the advantage of bringing our creative production courses together like this for the first time is that we will get to learn with and from each other, right? So, it'll be really wonderful to kind of have those, you know, students all in the same classrooms together.

Matthew Dabner: There are also new opportunities that we're bringing into this degree. I mean, I would say, you know, for anybody who's sort of feeling a little bit nervous about you've been thinking about what was the old version of the course, and now there's this new change, what does it mean?

Matthew Dabner: These are, you know, rebadged, refreshed, and renewed courses, right? So they're not 100% different. They are about, you know, 80% the same, I would say, but it's the 20% of differences, the new things that we're bringing to the table here that are really, really exciting.

Matthew Dabner: These opportunities to work with each other across, the degrees, and, you know, with this new Creative Production honours, amazing. We'll be able to, obviously, upskill and enhance our industry connections.

Matthew Dabner: And I think the really, really thing‚ the thing that I'm most excited about, I should say, about these new degrees is this introduction of submajors. So, ‚

Matthew Dabner: you know, by basically, ‚ well, the other thing I should say, too, is that in all cases, we have increased the credit points that students will spend.

Matthew Dabner: in their home course, right? In their‚ learning the thing that they came to university to learn. So, if you're in Media Arts, you're going to get more credit points spent in Media Arts classes.

Matthew Dabner: In music and sound design, same. And animation, of course. But‚

Matthew Dabner: there are, you know, there are slight differences in terms of the credit points and how they run with each course, which we'll go through separately, but really, we have this opportunity with the subjects that you get to choose, the electives that you have, and the choices that you can make that are outside of your program, to add submajors to the degrees. So, well, you know.

Matthew Dabner: Basically, you could take, if you were in media or arts, a sub-major in music and sound design or animation, but importantly, also, you can take sub-majors in any of the communications fields.

Matthew Dabner: that are, over in communications. So you might add a sub-major in digital and social media, or journalism, or PR and advertising. And excitingly, you know, we have, some cross-faculty submajors, like games design and interaction design, that will also be available to you.

Matthew Dabner: So, for example, I think it's always good to give an example, you know.

Matthew Dabner: ideal student here, Sam, who's doing a music and sound design degree, will add media arts as a sub-major. That will allow him to explore visual storytelling through adding that 24 credit points submajor, and, you know, he will also get those opportunities of working with the other BCP,

Matthew Dabner: You know, courses, preparing possibly for, you know, roles like a multimedia content creator or audio-visual producer.

Matthew Dabner: Again, over here, we have Casey in animation. Animation has higher credit points in terms of what they do in their stream, so they will not, unfortunately, get access to the sub-majors, but they do get access to bespoke, animation, electives, and also to electives from the BCP, you know, other fields, and also from comms as well. So.

Matthew Dabner: You know, they can have, ‚ there's ways for them to enhance the kind of learning that they're doing.

Matthew Dabner: All right, I feel like I've, you know, sort of exhaled there on talking about the BCP. I'm going to hand you over to Natalie now, who's going to take you through the changes to the Bachelor of Communication.

Natalie Krikowa: Great, thanks so much, Matthew. Yeah, so hi everyone, my name's Natalie Krakora, and I'm the course coordinator for the Bachelor of Communication degrees.

Natalie Krikowa: So we had a little bit of an intro at the start there about the main changes that we've made to communication, which is we've kind of moved the media arts and production out, and that's now sitting, as Matthew mentioned, in the BCP. We've renamed some of our courses to align it more with both the content matter, but also the industry.

Natalie Krikowa: Kind of expectations, and also student understanding of what that

Natalie Krikowa: what those, subjects or the subject matter is about. So, we now have, writing and publishing going back to the name of creative writing. If students want to, focus after their creative writing undergraduate, they want to focus more on the role of the publishing industry, they can do that in the postgraduate studies.

Natalie Krikowa: If they'd like.

Natalie Krikowa: We've also had a change to, strategic communication, which has sort of, again, gone back to, public relations and advertising, which is, I guess, you know.

Natalie Krikowa: words that we're sort of a bit more familiar with, and students and parents are a bit more understanding of what those fields are. So they're the main changes in terms of the names of the degrees. And if, Matthew, if you just want to flip to the next, slide, I think that's got the

Natalie Krikowa: So, there's that one. So, as Matthew mentioned with the BCP, we've also done a revitalisation, of our degrees, and have looked at, you know, from a subject level, you know, what sort of changes we can be making to improve the subjects, improve the degrees, you know, build in those kind of, work-integrated learning sort of focuses, and making sure that they are really strongly connected to

Natalie Krikowa: Industry requirements, so our graduates will go into those fields.

Natalie Krikowa: Ahead of the game.

Natalie Krikowa: So we've also revitalized our core subjects, so we've refreshed all three of our core subjects, and as the BCP's doing, we're aligning that in our first year, second year, and third year that those subjects will appear in. So all students from those majors will all come together in the core, and again, learn and cross-pollinate, you know, their

Natalie Krikowa: They're learning with each other.

Natalie Krikowa: So those, core subjects, our first one in first year is really focused on the role of communication in society. We're really excited about that as a way to bring students into understanding those kind of foundational, theories and practices of communications and media studies.

Natalie Krikowa: in society. The second one is around the role of technology, so communication and technology. So thinking about how technology has been used historically, but also contemporarily.

Natalie Krikowa: and, you know, in disruptive ways, in complementary ways, in the ways that we think about communications across all of those discipline areas. And then we've also built in, like I said, a really strong kind of work-integrated learning focus, where we're thinking about how we can build in those industry capabilities

Natalie Krikowa: From the start, so from first year through to third year. And so we're looking at how we can, ensure students are getting access to, you know, industry experts from the first year all the way through to having, internship-like or internship opportunities, in their second and third year.

Natalie Krikowa: So the really great thing that we love about the communication, which we are keeping, is that everyone does their first stream, or chooses their degree, so if they've chosen creative writing.

Natalie Krikowa: that's the focus, that's what they'll graduate with. But the great thing that we do at UTS is we say you can actually choose one of the other degrees, and you essentially get

Natalie Krikowa: get that as well. So it's almost a two-for-one deal. So you get to choose a second stream in any of the other, communications majors or streams. So, from digital and social media, journalism, media business, PR and advertising, etc.

Natalie Krikowa: Yeah, actually, Matthew, jump to the next one, because then we can talk about how those can work really nicely for students to be able to build the degree that makes sense for them, or that kind of fits with

Natalie Krikowa: what they're interested in, but also where potentially they might want to go with their careers. So if we take Taylor as an example on‚ over here on the left of the screen, a creative writing major student has elected to take strategic communication as a second degree. So does all the creative writing subjects, does all of the strategic communication subjects, gets to graduate with both of those things.

Natalie Krikowa: So what that allows them to do is build

Natalie Krikowa: their creative voice across, obviously, the creative writing, but also in thinking through creative, non-fiction and, more, sort of, strategic communication, kind of areas that would be applicable to PR, to advertising, in that kind of world.

Natalie Krikowa: So, Taylor could even then access, for instance, electives over in the BCP. They might choose to do something like screenwriting, where they can then, you know, build their career around‚ around brand storytelling or content strategy.

Natalie Krikowa: So, you know, there's a lot of opportunity there to build the ideal kind of program or degree.

Natalie Krikowa: If we jump over to Alex in Journalism.

Natalie Krikowa: Alex will do all of the journalism subjects, also gets to take on a second major, in this instance, has chosen digital and social media. So, whilst developing those very traditional journalism skills, like investigations, sound reporting, they also get to develop their digital skills around UX research, audience analysis, prototype design, etc.

Natalie Krikowa: So those core subjects provide that foundation to work across both of those areas, and could prepare our students, like Alex.

Natalie Krikowa: To work in kind of a digital news environment where, you know, we still need those very crucial traditional journalism kind of skills and knowledge, but in a world that's very much, you know, moving towards digital storytelling.

Natalie Krikowa: And then lastly, we've got Jordan, who would take digital and social media, but might choose something like social and political sciences.

Natalie Krikowa: To, you know, develop both their technical, kind of, digital skills and understanding of the digital world, but also how that works in terms of the social issues of today, and how we can be using those skills to, you know, improve our society.

Natalie Krikowa: So they could take things, some electives, such as podcasting, you know, to help, again, build those kind of strong digital communication skills, and allow them to be, you know, a specialist in that area.

Natalie Krikowa: And so, yeah, that's the main‚ the main changes to our, degree. I'll start, this bit, and then I might throw it back over to Matthew. So, how the degrees work, are slightly different.

Natalie Krikowa: But I'll talk about the comms, the communication degrees to start. So, as Matthew mentioned, we have a lot of credit points we've got to kind of, you know, get through. So, 144 to start. Within the Bachelor of Communication, you choose one of those specializations at the start, your stream.

Natalie Krikowa: And that allows you to have that deep specialization in that area, whether that's creative writing or journalism, etc. And then you take on an additional 13 subjects, or 78 credit points.

Natalie Krikowa: Now, that usually is filled up by that second major, another 48 credit points, specialization in a particular area, and also the core subjects and the ability to choose those electives.

Natalie Krikowa: If, for instance, students don't want to continue with their second stream, so they tried it out, they didn't like it, there's also the opportunity to, just fill out the rest of the degree, with electives as well. So every student will take the three core subjects. Every student takes, if they're doing a full-time study load, will take four subjects per session.

Natalie Krikowa: And so that is, you know, the equivalent of doing kind of a full-time job. So it is, you know, the work is there to be done, and yeah, we're excited about the way that students can now tailor that program to make sure their study is completely in line with their interests.

Matthew Dabner: Thanks, Nat. So yes, in the Bachelor of Creative Production, it's slightly different, and I'm going to kind of explain it this way.

Matthew Dabner: Media Arts and music and sound design have a similar, same structure. 72 credit points of the 144, or 50%, is a set program of subjects that you take in a particular order. But the other 72 credit points is your choice, right? And within that, we have a special study package called Stream Choice, where you get to do subjects that are in your area.

Matthew Dabner: That kind of deepen and broaden or, you know, give you bespoke skills in a particular area. So you can kind of somewhat tailor your degree.

Matthew Dabner: The other part of your 72 credit points as choice are electives and all these sub-majors, right? So, why there's a range of numbers there is because, again, we're kind of trying to say slightly different in animation, same sort of concept, but, you know, different numbers for different courses.

Matthew Dabner: But, ‚

Matthew Dabner: say, for example, with music and sound design and media arts, in the electives and submajors area, there's 54 credit points. 24 credit points is what a sub-major is. You could do two sub-majors, you could do one sub-major and a bunch of electives, or you could do all electives. And we have a really great range of electives to choose from, not just from within the BCP areas, but also, you know, from the comms area as well.

Matthew Dabner: boat.

Matthew Dabner: So, you know, really exciting that you get, I think, at least that much time in your home kind of course, and doing your discipline work, in that, you know, across the three years.

Matthew Dabner: And, yeah, I think, you know, I think that kind of explains it. As Nat said, it's a full-time load, a 3-year degree. You could do, you know, a reduced study load. I think,

Matthew Dabner: Comms is going to be offering part-time study as well.

Matthew Dabner: the thing about doing part-time study or reduced study load in the Bachelor of Creative Production is it does sort of kick you out of the kind of, you know, schedule of which you're supposed to be doing particular subjects, but, you know, should you get here, that is something we can absolutely talk about.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, so what makes our degrees distinctive? There's‚ across both of the suites, comms and BCP, we have these core foundational subjects. You get then, of course, to go into your course and specialise in the area that you're really interested in and get that deep expertise.

Matthew Dabner: There's that idea of cross-pollination and working and learning across streams and from each other and across even the suites in some respects. So you would, you know, if you're in the BCP, find yourself in classes and subjects with people from comms. We're all part of the same big family.

Matthew Dabner: Importantly, we have a very strong real-world focus in terms of what we do. We are, you know, very,

Matthew Dabner: Well, served in terms of our industry partnerships, and what we're here to do is give you practical experiences and practical skills that you can take out into your careers.

Matthew Dabner: And, of course, transferable expertise for evolving careers. You know, one of the big things about this refresh was to think forward and look and consider what are the skills and knowledge that you're going to need as you go out into these industries in the future and, you know, make your careers.

Matthew Dabner: So, as you'll probably know, there are ATAR reentry requirements for all the courses. They also vary depending on what the stream is and the combinations, the lowest being about 72, the highest being 96. You can find those on our UTS website. Of course, that website for the BCP will be updating on the 29th.

Matthew Dabner: But multiple pathways are available in terms of coming in. So, you know, if your ATAR's not at that height, the UTS College is an option for you, and something that you should think about, and will provide access into all of the degrees that you've been hearing about today.

Matthew Dabner: So, just in terms of, you know, the parents that might be listening at home, career outcomes and industry connections, this is really one of the strengths of having education at UTS. We have the number one employment rate for communication graduates in New South Wales. We're amongst the top 10 Australian universities for communications and media studies.

Matthew Dabner: top 100 globally also, and we have 5-star graduate outcomes for salary and for our courses. So, really, there is a, you know, a good kind of story to be told about the jobs and the future, you know, at the end of the degree.

Matthew Dabner: Our graduates work across multiple, you know, facets of industry and different companies, and, you know, we are kind of really making sure, even in these specialized degrees, that we're teaching what we call platform agnostic skills for whatever comes next. So, preparing graduates for roles that don't even exist yet.

Matthew Dabner: For example, with AI as a collaborative tool, not as a replacement for the work that humans can do.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, so another, interesting, you know, decision-making things, I guess, both for students and parents. How do you choose from this amazing, you know, options that are before you? So, in the BCOM, do you want to speak to how the students would be thriving in the BCOM, Nat, or do you want me to kind of cover this?

Natalie Krikowa: Look, I'm happy to talk about this, because I think, you know, this is where students have often, thought about, where do I fit? Do I fit more in‚ in more the, like, communication sort of subjects and‚ and disciplines? Or, you know, am I someone that would thrive more in these kind of creative production‚

Natalie Krikowa: subjects and courses. So within communications, we've thought about the distinction there, and really, the main things that we're looking for in our students is that they're curious questions. So they're coming to university to really be thinking about how the world works, be critical of

Natalie Krikowa: You know, the things that they're seeing and they're reading and they're listening to. But they're also creative communicators, so whether that's in creative writing or digital and social media, we're looking at ways that we can take our critical thinking and apply that to, you know, the world using creative communication strategies.

Natalie Krikowa: If you're someone who is very, like, innovation-minded, so if you're someone who enjoys problem solving, or has that kind of entrepreneurial mindset of.

Natalie Krikowa: of seeing a problem and going, I want to see ways that we can fix this, or that we can solve this wicked problem. I think you would thrive really well within our degrees. And then lastly, that kind of combination of kind of analytical and creative thinking. So, if you're someone who sort of has a bit of that creative

Natalie Krikowa: thinking skills, but you're also very, you know, analytical, you like to work both collaboratively and individually, you know, I think you'll, you'll do really well in the Bachelor of Communication, degrees.

Matthew Dabner: Yeah. And over in the Bachelor of Credit Production, the people that will thrive in our courses, who are already thriving in the courses that currently exist, are those people who like to get their hands on the

Matthew Dabner: technology, on equipment, and make things. You know, they're creators rather than just consumers. You know, storytelling is a very big part of what we do in animation, music, media arts, and music and sound design, and we want

Matthew Dabner: Creative, you know, collaborative storytellers to come and take these courses.

Matthew Dabner: Technical creatives, I mean, people who are, you know, really comfortable with digital tools and are willing to experiment with them, and of course, platform experimenters who enjoy pushing creative boundaries. So, you know, I guess the questions that you can ask yourselves, and you're, you know, if you're a student, is do you prefer making things or analyzing and strategizing? You know, not that it's a definite kind of, like.

Matthew Dabner: 51, 50 the other, you go here, you go there. Are you drawn to words and ideas or images and sounds? Do you enjoy working with cutting-edge technology or as, you know, as a creative tool?

Matthew Dabner: Can you see yourself in a corporate role, or are you more in a creative studio environment? These are, you know, all the possibilities that we cater to across the two suites.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, I'm going to just kind of rush through this, because I think we've been talking long enough, and I'm kind of keen to get to the questions that are in the chat. You know, some common misconceptions for the degrees that we offer, there aren't enough jobs in the creative industry, so why should I go down this route? Well, creative undergraduates work across all industries, from banks to tech companies, so really it's about, you know.

Matthew Dabner: Making your own kind of way.

Matthew Dabner: This seems to be‚ this idea out there that AI is going to come and replace creative workers. You know, unfortunately, no, I don't think that's got the case. Creative skills become more valuable, as routine tasks become automated, right? So, really, it's the kind of creative and critical thinking skills that, cannot be replicated by artificial intelligence, that are going to be very important.

Matthew Dabner: To the, you know, employers of tomorrow.

Matthew Dabner: These degrees aren't academically rigorous. Ha! I laugh, they are. You know, we do have, you know, we are a university, and again, that is one of the advantages of coming to UTS and doing your degree with us. We, have very high standards in terms of academic, you know, integrity, support, the work that we do. It's not just if you're in the BCEP making things, you, you still occasionally

Matthew Dabner: occasionally have to write an essay, you do have to think about your creative practice, you know, you are‚

Matthew Dabner: You have that opportunity also to, unlike some other places, like perhaps the AFTRS, you have the advantage of being able to take subjects in some of the communications disciplines.

Matthew Dabner: And get that really broad-based liberal arts degree that is all about thinking, and who, you know, kind of helping you understand who you are in the world and how things work in the world, in addition to the knowledge and skills that you're getting in your particular discipline.

Matthew Dabner: And you can't get that at, AFTRS.

Matthew Dabner: Finally, do you need natural talent to succeed? Well, curiosity, persistence, and willingness to collaborate matter most. You know, I think we've all heard of the overnight success, which is really a person that's been working very, very hard at their craft or at their specialty for, you know, 10, 20 years, and then suddenly they make it.

Matthew Dabner: That is absolutely the case, specifically in the creative industries as well.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, communication, contact information and next steps, and then we'll go to Q&A. As we said, this is kind of just like a sneak peek. We kind of wanted to just get your, you know, get it out there, what the kind of changes were.

Matthew Dabner: You know, course information goes live on our website on the 29th of August, which is coming up shortly. And then our big opportunity for, you know, students to come and kind of hear more is on, August 30th, Saturday, August 30th. We're having our open day. Students and families, obviously, welcome to come along to that. There is, you know, a place where you can register for that and also get more

Matthew Dabner: information. And then, of course, finally, on September 2nd, our handbook is released. So, there's just a few other things there in terms of

Matthew Dabner: you know, numbers that you can call, or, you know, people that you could‚ websites that you could follow if you have more‚ more questions. But there are questions in the chat, so let me see if I can‚

Matthew Dabner: See them. Where are they? How do I get to them? Sure‚ Q&A for‚ okay, great. So‚

Matthew Dabner: Let's, have a look.

Matthew Dabner: Karen, all other animation degrees in Queensland and Victoria use portfolio submissions and the ATAR to determine the talented students who are good for an animation degree. Is this something UTS will consider, and why don't we do a portfolio?

Matthew Dabner: ‚.

Rachel Landers: till I answer that?

Matthew Dabner: Yes, please.

Rachel Landers: Okay, look.

Rachel Landers: Possibly at some point in the future, we may, but currently we don't, because the way we teach animation is quite unique at UTS.

Rachel Landers: We follow what they call the school of the Line, and we start with a line. One of the things is we bring in quite disparate animation students. We have people who, what does, Dr. Grant refer to them as the computer geek?

Rachel Landers: And the girl who can draw very well. So these are quite different students, we find what we're able to do by saying, opening up, we don't really mind what you've been doing before, we understand that you have a passion for animation, but when you come here on day one, we start drawing, live drawing.

Rachel Landers: with a line, and we do it together, and we learn together. So we try and ask people to leave their preconceptions, and part of that is the portfolio entry. ‚

Rachel Landers: And so it is a different way of learning, but, we have astonishing success. We have Sundance winners, we have Anacy winners, we've just won Kappa Select in Best Animation, so that's the best animation from any school in China, India, Australia.

Rachel Landers: Japan, Korea. So, that's why we do that. I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying we will never change, but right now it's working extremely well. And, I think the students like it too. It just opens us up, saying.

Rachel Landers: We respect what you've done, but it's not‚ we're not making those value judgments on that. We want you to come in, and we want you to start anew, and learn together, and grow together.

Matthew Dabner: Thank you, Rachel.

Matthew Dabner: So, next question, how do current UAC applications work for early entry and the new BCP? So, if you have been on UAC and you've applied for early entry to one of the current courses, so, for example, the Bachelor of Communication in Media Arts and Production, it's exactly the same. There is notes on UAC already saying that these courses are being re-accredited, and so any early entry offers or any early, you know, anyone who has put up their hand for that particular

Matthew Dabner: course will be automatically considered for the BCP, and if they've applied and put this as our preference,

Matthew Dabner: again, that will sort of flow through to that as well. So, I hope that answers that question.

Matthew Dabner: Hey, team, looking to understand if the coursework has any considerations about the impact of AI in these careers, and where it is going to be by the time the kids graduate.

Matthew Dabner: Natalie, do you want to answer that one for comms?

Natalie Krikowa: Yeah, I mean, certainly in comms, it's not a new thing that we're considering. It's actually been something we've been looking at for a couple of years now, and so, you know, we're looking at the role of AI in terms of what we can do to teach about AI, particularly generative AI in, you know, things like ChatGPT. We're teaching our students,

Natalie Krikowa: Actually, how it works, and then looking at how, you know, what are the limitations, with these particular tools.

Natalie Krikowa: And, you know, in terms of where‚ where those,

Natalie Krikowa: those jobs might come in. I think, you know, as Matthew mentioned earlier, I don't think AI will be replacing a lot of these communication

Natalie Krikowa: jobs, they might be coming in and providing support in certain areas, and we talk a lot about how industry are currently using AI, but also then how we can be thinking about it more critically and analytically, and not just using it because it's, you know, it's a tool that's easily accessible. You might want to speak about it more in the Korean

Natalie Krikowa: creative production aspect, but certainly within comms, we're‚ we're talking about it a lot.

Matthew Dabner: Yeah, and over in the BCP land, we are absolutely dealing with it on a day-to-day basis, and going, you know, what are the ethical and appropriate uses of this technology? And, you know, trying to kind of have that convers‚ well, we are having that conversation with our current students, and we'll be having it with our future students. And, you know, some of these tools are going to be good for the industry.

Rachel Landers: right now, some of them are wonderful. I mean, so, I mean, it's really interesting, you know, we've had, certainly in things like Premiere Pro and, like, a lot of software, they're actually wonderful, and they speed things up, and‚

Rachel Landers: what it doesn't tend to do, and I've yet to see this, is make a great film. And it's really interesting. I mean, I remember the days when everyone got iPhones, and they were like, everyone's gonna make films, really brilliant iPhone films, and yet they didn't.

Rachel Landers: so much is the decisions behind what AI is doing. I think in some ways, we're embracing it a lot. We're using a lot very playfully and really interesting. A lot of our top researchers are doing fascinating things with it. We're not afraid of it. I think it's going to be a great enhancer.

Rachel Landers: And I think, you know, sometimes it's‚ there are problems, there are problems with the copyright, but these are not‚

Rachel Landers: interestingly new issues in some ways. I mean, they are‚

Rachel Landers: there is a hunger for the authentic, there is a hunger for the original, and, you know, we're already seeing, interestingly, I don't know whether people are keeping up with the release of ChatGPT this week, there's already a talk about a slowdown, because as it scrapes the barrel again and again.

Rachel Landers: there is a lack of originality, and there is a kind of sameness about everything. So, I think it's‚ it's all going to be fine, everyone. So, jump on board. And, you know, and I think, you know, be part of that‚ that generation that‚

Rachel Landers: harnesses it and does really exciting things with it, and hopefully for the better, and make great things that people want to watch, because that's actually harder than you think.

Matthew Dabner: Yeah, that's where the action's at.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, moving on. Is the BCP codes now available on UX? So, all of the course codes for the courses remain the same, right? So, if you have looked at the course code for, you know, Bachelor of Communication in Media Arts and Production before, it will be absolutely the same for the Bachelor of Creative Production

Matthew Dabner: in, meteor Arts. So, no stress there.

Matthew Dabner: Are there internship opportunities or work-integrated learning placements as part of the communication degrees?

Natalie Krikowa: Yes, is the very simple answer to that. Yeah, we do. We absolutely have opportunities, for internship and internship-like,

Natalie Krikowa: experiences across all of those, majors, from journalism through to creative writing. So everyone has an opportunity to take an internship subject if they want to as an elective.

Natalie Krikowa: But in each of those degrees, that work-integrated learning approach has ensured that within the course, the duration of that course, every student will have opportunities, to have those internship opportunities as part of their degree. We also, as disciplines, externally, often get, you know, told about different opportunities for students.

Natalie Krikowa: And we pass those on to students all the time for that. But in terms of it being embedded within the course, that's been a huge focus of ours for the last couple of years, is looking at how we can ensure that every student is leaving having had that experience of applying the learning that they've done in the classroom in that kind of work environment.

Matthew Dabner: Great.

Matthew Dabner: And again, like, there's, you know, there's opportunities to do internships in a kind of formal way, but there's an internship subject that you can take as an elective. But we also, especially in the creative production area, you know, encourage students, if they have the time and the capacity and, you know, don't have to have a, you know, part-time job or whatever, to go out and try and find internships while they're doing their degree, because learning on the job is an amazing thing.

Matthew Dabner: But, you know, again, all of our‚

Matthew Dabner: Degrees are, or sort of our subjects are kind of focused around, the kind of, giving you, assessments that are like real-world, you know,

Matthew Dabner: projects, right? So, it's all very project-based, and it's, you know, you end up, through the Bachelor of Creative Production courses with a portfolio of work that you can show future employers to show that you know how to do the job that you are applying for. So, we are very much focused on that kind of practical, side of things as well, in terms of our work-integrated learning process.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, let me have a look further down here. So, ‚

Matthew Dabner: If you've applied for early entry under the previous destruction, it applies automatically yes to the previous course. I think I answered that already.

Matthew Dabner: So, do students need to change course names and preferences? No, that does not have to happen. So, UAC will be updating their website with the new names of the degrees shortly. That will happen around the same time that the website goes live, so all of that is, coming. Remember, this is a sneak peek. This is not, you know, we're sort of slightly ahead of the curve on these things so far.

Matthew Dabner: If you've applied for early entry, so for, yes, applied for music and sound design, can you change your course to one of the new BCP courses? Well, if you've applied for the current Music and Sound Design degree, that will not be offered next year. The new BCP course will be offered, so you're already in the running.

Matthew Dabner: So Steph says, so publishing now needs to be done as a second degree? I think that, no, is kind of the answer, but speak more to that, Natalie.

Natalie Krikowa: So, we've.

Matthew Dabner: Changed from writing and publishing to just creative writing.

Natalie Krikowa: That's right, yeah. The focus is‚ the focus is and always has been more on creative writing, and editing.

Natalie Krikowa: there will always be aspects of publishing in the undergraduate degree, but we do‚ what I mean in terms of, you know, the specialization of publishing, if that's something that throughout the course of that three years, someone's like, actually, I'm really enjoying this publishing aspect of creative writing, we do offer the graduate certificate, in, writing, editing, and publishing, and that one is more

Natalie Krikowa: very much tailored towards that sort of career path into publishing. So that's, yes, we‚ it's not necessarily a second degree, but it's a‚ it's that kind of building on the skills that you would learn in the undergraduate, program, and taking that further in a postgraduate specialization.

Matthew Dabner: Yep.

Matthew Dabner: So, Steph, I think you also asked, if I deferred a comms course last year, do I still have a place in one of the new courses? And that would be‚

Matthew Dabner: Absolutely true, right? Yeah, I don't think we're going to kick you out from that, we're not going to make you reapply. You know, as I said, these are rebadged, refreshed, and renewed versions of, you know, things that are already in play, so imagine that that is going to work out for you.

Matthew Dabner: Will the BA of Music and Sound Design become available to focus more on music and sound in the film industry, becoming more creative in that sense? So, Rachel, do you want to‚.

Rachel Landers: Sure. Well, in fact, that's the very reason why we're bringing these, three degrees together. So, obviously, animation and, media arts and production are totally focused on screen, so what we are doing is building many more opportunities in the music and sound degree to become

Rachel Landers: part of that‚ that storytelling, that visual storytelling. So there are other aspects of music and sound design, but we are certainly, building capacity in that area, and very much encouraging lots of fantastic collaborations between those students, in the capstone, in animation. So there's going to be‚

Rachel Landers: Much more of a focus on that as we go forward, yes, that's correct.

Rachel Landers: Do I need to learn‚ know an instrument? Is another music. Shall I answer that too? The answer is no, you do not. ‚

Rachel Landers: It's great if you do, but you do not need to do that, because, you may want to go into screen composition, sound design, you may want to focus on these different things if you‚ if you want to be recording artist, you can be recording other musicians, so it's not‚ it's not a requirement.

Matthew Dabner: So another question here is Global Exchange Program available as part of the BCP? Yes, there is. You, you know, you have enough credit points where you could take 24 credit points and go and, you know, spend a semester abroad. One of the really exciting things that we're going to bring into the BCP, though, is we've got a new thing called Global Studios, which are subjects that are sort of short study abroad programs.

Matthew Dabner: which will be organized by the BCP disciplines, and that won't require you to go away for 6 months. That'll, you know, just be sort of like a short version of that. There are, you know.

Matthew Dabner: so yes, I guess is the short answer. I mean, there‚ there‚ we do have to kind of try and find, you know, equivalent subjects for you to study while you're abroad, if you do decide to go away for 6 months. That can be harder than it looks, but, you know, we do have a lot of, really great partnerships with the universities around the world, so a lot of our, you know, current subjects do, so students do, you know.

Matthew Dabner: Do do the exchange, broad exchange.

Matthew Dabner: I hinted earlier on some changes with the combined degrees. Is there anything different in the BC or BCP going into 2026? Well, I guess the big difference is, that, you know, you won't be able to do a combined degree with International Studies in 2026, as those courses have been temporarily suspended. However, the other combined degrees, the Bachelor of Creative Intelligence Innovation and some law courses, you know, some

Matthew Dabner: With law courses, do remain available to you as an option.

Matthew Dabner: There's a lot of questions, and I don't know if I'm keeping up with them, but if you don't answer all of these questions, we will be, you know, we'll give you aed response when we get back to sending out the video as well.

Matthew Dabner: Wouldn't anyone like to take one?

Rachel Landers: There's entry requirements for mature age students.

Matthew Dabner: Yeah, okay, so if you're a mature age student, and you haven't had an ATAR for a while, or you haven't been in high school for a while, there will be, options for you in terms of what do you need to provide in order to kind of, you know, be considered.

Matthew Dabner: So, I'm honestly going to say I don't know what they are off the top of my head, for music and sound design in particular, but, I don't, you know, I don't think it will be excessive. And, the AEMB was one other part of that question. I think that, you know, yes, that those all count.

Matthew Dabner: And I think, you know, if you don't‚ if you've not been to high school for a while, and you want to come into an undergraduate degree, you know, my understanding is that you just gotta, you know, kind of‚

Matthew Dabner: yeah, talk to‚ sorry, talk to the admissions team, and they will be able to give you very good guidance. They are the ones to talk to, and that is, again, why it would be really great for you to come along on,

Matthew Dabner: Open Day, because there were people around, you know, from the admissions team that will be able to help answer those very specific questions.

Rachel Landers: There's one here for you, Natalie, about the Bachelor of Comms. If you take

Rachel Landers: When you take a second stream electives, can the electives count towards a minor, or would it just be those two streams?

Natalie Krikowa: Yeah, so the second stream, you‚ when you start, at, in your comms course, you will just sign up for your regular comms course, and then in the second session, you will have an opportunity to check, which of those streams you'd like to select as your second, stream choice. If, for instance, you decide at the end of, you know, 12 months, actually, I don't want to, you know, continue with this second stream.

Natalie Krikowa: all that, work doesn't‚ isn't for nothing. It counts as electives, so it just kind of goes in as credit points into an elective bank.

Natalie Krikowa: And, you know, you continue on with your‚ your major that you selected from the start, and, and then just take the rest of the credit points as electives, picking across the comms, but also into BCP, electives as well. So hopefully that

Natalie Krikowa: answers the question there, and I‚

Natalie Krikowa: did know there was one in here, too, around, the differences or benefits to studying communications in PR and advertising compared with advertising and marketing communications at the business school. I guess I can only speak to, kind of, the focus of our comms degree, which is around, kind of, communication, specifically, and less around, kind of, business and business structures.

Natalie Krikowa: So I imagine the business school would be more focused around, you know, the business environments where we focus on the various,

Natalie Krikowa: communication, practices and, and, and structures and, you know, tools and, and output, so across, kind of, you know, public relations, and advertising. So I guess there's less of a focus around

Natalie Krikowa: marketing and business marketing, but more focused on, kind of, the communication side of it around PR and advertising. So, I'm not 100% sure on what the business schools

Natalie Krikowa: kind of focus on offering is, but I believe it to be more marketing-focused, and ours is less around marketing.

Matthew Dabner: Jumping off that, someone's asked, can you do Media Arts and elective PR advertising, or would that be a double degree? So, again, the good thing about the BCP is if you come into Media Arts as your primary degree, you can take a

Matthew Dabner: sub-major in public relations and advertising. And it's four 6 credit point subjects, 24 credit points, and I've got to tell you, they're the fun ones. They're the fun‚ you get to do the creative advertising subject, and it's the kind of, you know, it's the stuff that if you're‚ if you really are into, kind of, filmmaking and making audio-visual content.

Matthew Dabner: will really help you understand how advertising and PR works, and how you would be able to kind of, you know, add that string to your bow, as you go on. But it's not a double degree, it's just a sub-major. You'll‚ you'll graduate with a certificate that says, you know, you have a Bachelor of Communication in‚ sorry, but it's Bachelor of Creative Production in Media Arts, and on your official transcript, you'll say the sub-major, you know, PR.

Matthew Dabner: and advertising.

Rachel Landers: Ames says, the electives in the BCP that focus on creative direction? Yes, there are. Absolutely. So, but we, we really start‚ you can be starting directing in first year, it's sort of, putting your hand up if that's your real thing. We do focus on it in our, ‚

Rachel Landers: in our module, so you can take it as a‚ I mean, you can choose to kind of build your whole degree in that way.

Rachel Landers: We‚ we do actually have a Masters in Screen, Arts that has a directing elective that is in con‚ run in conjunction with the Australian, Director's Guild, so we've just launched that right now, in fact, about 3 weeks ago.

Rachel Landers: So absolutely, yes, there are. They're not electives, they're part of the core of, of, of media arts.

Matthew Dabner: So, I think, Amy, you've also asked about, would there be any collaboration creatively with the fashion students? So, interestingly, the School of Communication is now in the Faculty of Design, which has fashion in it.

Matthew Dabner: But there are no, current, arrangements for that, but that's not to say that there wouldn't be in the future. Specifically, you know, I think you're also thinking about creative direction in terms of, I guess, is that maybe an ad kind of, you know, creative direction of ads?

Matthew Dabner: So production design, set design, that kind of thing, that's definitely in our wheelhouse and what we do and provide. And yes, you know, if you wanted to go through, media arts degree with

Matthew Dabner: Production design as your kind of focus, it's the perfect place for it, right?

Rachel Landers: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

Rachel Landers: Someone's saying I'm a Year 11 student. Heart said on doing animation, you should be, it's a wonderful degree here. Can I do‚ increase the chances of getting a place? Honestly, study hard. Do well in your HSC, look at‚

Rachel Landers: the subjects that are weighted, so we have‚ do you want to talk about that, Matthew? Do you‚ the subjects that give you extra‚

Rachel Landers: Okay, so they're‚.

Matthew Dabner: I, I clicked.

Rachel Landers: This is, like, a little bit‚ but it's true. There are certain HSC subjects that‚ that, they're weighted slightly higher, on your entry to‚ and they're obviously the ones that tend to be weighted towards the arts, so English, art.

Matthew Dabner: Yeah.

Rachel Landers: Things like that. So that‚

Rachel Landers: That is possible. Look, as I say, I think there are other questions about the portfolio. It's not off the table. It is something‚ obviously, we do it for‚ we've talked about it in music and sound design, it is a pathway. It may come up in the future. Right now, it is not. ‚

Rachel Landers: That doesn't mean it will never be.

Rachel Landers: Yes. I mean, we're obviously interested in, in, in‚

Rachel Landers: opening up pathways into UTS. We don't, you know, we do want, we do understand there are different ways in. Right now, there is UTS College, so that may be something, that you want to consider if you're interested in animation. That is an alternative pathway.

Matthew Dabner: To come in. You come into‚.

Rachel Landers: you do UTS College for the first year, and then you come in to join us in second year, so that is an option.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, so if you wanted to do music and sound and film, what submajor or majors should you take? Really, the question is what course should you come into? So, if you are literally kind of wanting to be focused on music and sound design, then the Bachelor of Creative Production in Music and Sound Design is for you, and then you can, you know, take a sub-major in Media Arts.

Matthew Dabner: But if you want to be a filmmaker, if you want to be kind of like, you know, a director, a cinematographer, editor, screenwriter, producer, media arts is the thing. But it sounds like, from your question, music and sound design is the degree for you.

Matthew Dabner: Renee, this may be a bit off-topic, but what are you going to choose for architectural design? I have no idea. That is up‚ architectural design.

Rachel Landers: not teaching it.

Matthew Dabner: We're not teaching that one, so unfortunately we can't help you with that, so‚.

Rachel Landers: You're in the same faculty, but not in the same school.

Matthew Dabner: Yeah.

Matthew Dabner: So, I think, you know, ‚ okay, another one here. I'm considering several communication majors, and some of them are closely related. Is it possible to switch after you enrol from one to the other?

Natalie Krikowa: Yes.

Matthew Dabner: So, yes, is the answer.

Natalie Krikowa: the answer very‚ I mean, we have internal course transfers, within the university, so it's not‚ because it's only changing from, kind of, one course to the other within the Bachelor of Communication, for instance, like, that is easy enough.

Natalie Krikowa: To do internally within the university. I don't believe you have to go back out, to UAC and do the whole reapply through that. But the other thing that,

Natalie Krikowa: Is good about the double‚

Natalie Krikowa: getting to do the second stream, is that often that is an opportunity for someone to kind of go, like, I've got an interest in journalism, but I'm also wanting to do social and political sciences. You know, which one do I choose? Similar to the BCP, response that Matthew just said. I mean, whichever one you're sort of leaning more to, then pick that one.

Natalie Krikowa: And know that you've got the option to do the second stream. And then, if you kind of get into it and go, well, actually, yeah, I'm really not enjoying‚

Natalie Krikowa: this first one as much, and I think I just want to focus on the second one and drop the first one. You can apply for an internal, you know, course transfer that way. But you get the best of both worlds, I think, in our degree, which you don't get at other universities and other communications courses.

Natalie Krikowa: It's something that we're really, we're really proud of, and that we think our students really enjoy, is having that flexibility of two, majors in their degree.

Matthew Dabner: or over in the BCP, it's the major and‚ And a sub-major. Submajor, or two submajors, but, you know, really kind of having that, extra string to your bow, right?

Rachel Landers: Yeah, I mean, it's‚ it really is, you know what, it is exceptional in that you get‚ it's both broad, but it's also deep, and I think that's what's really important, is‚ and that they're the kind of skills that people are looking for once you graduate.

Matthew Dabner: Okay, one final question. What is the total number of study hours per week that students are expected to do when they attend university, especially for BCP? Well, the four subjects that you'll take each semester is the equivalent of a 40-hour week, right? A full-time job. So, it's about 40 hours, or 7 days, you know, 7 or 8 hours a day, and, you know, you might have a time to have a small, you know, part-time job on top of it.

Matthew Dabner: But really, it is a full-time commitment. So, ‚

Matthew Dabner: These, have been great questions. I think, though, as you can see, you know, everyone's going to have specifics that they want answered, and the way to get those specifics answered by people like myself and Natalie and Professor Landers is to come to Open Day and have a chat with not just, the academics who'll be manning the information booths.

Matthew Dabner: But with actual students in these courses, and, you know, kind of get a sense of what student life is like at UTS, and, you know, how they're traveling with the courses that they're doing.

Matthew Dabner: So, thank you very much for coming to this sneak peek. We really have appreciated all your questions, and I hope it's given you some sort of indication of what these exciting changes are going to be as we roll them out next year. And, yeah, like, if you're‚

Matthew Dabner: already on that list, if you've got our, you know, course codes listed on your UAC preference form, you're fine, everything is good. The name change will happen in the background, and, you know, there's no need to kind of reapply to any of these courses or anything like that. It's really just make sure that, you know, you do check back in specifically after the 29th, and make sure that's all fine from your end.

Matthew Dabner: But really, it should be a very seamless and smooth, you know, changeover.

Matthew Dabner: Alright.

Rachel Landers: See you on the 30th!

Matthew Dabner: See you on the 30th, we'll hope to see you, at UTS. Thanks for everybody.

Natalie Krikowa: Thanks, everyone, for coming.