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Our cities, landscapes and virtual networks are evolving at rapid speeds and interacting in complex new ways. At UTS Architecture and Landscape Architecture, we believe there has rarely been a more challenging or exciting time for agile thinkers to engage with our designed environment.
Recorded live on Thursday 11 June 2020, this information webinar is presented by Urtzi Grau and Professor Penny Allan, covering the Master of Architecture, Master of Landscape Architecture and Graduate Certificate of Landscape Architecture.
Luke Chess (00:18):
Okay, well thank you very much for joining us here this evening. Just in case you missed the beginning, my name is Luke Chess. I'm the Marketing Manager here for the Faculty of Design, Architecture and Built Environment. I will be something of an MC at this strange virtual event that we're all doing together.
Luke Chess (01:50):
First of all, it's important to note that the ancestral lands of the Gadigal people, are the area that the UTS City Campus now stands. I'd like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation upon whose ancestral lands the City campus now stands. And indeed, from where I'm broadcasting, it's the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation's ancestral lands as well. I'd like to pay respects to the Elders both past and present, and emerging, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians of knowledge for this land. And I'd particularly like to welcome any Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander people attending this evening.
Francesca Hughes (02:30):
Thank you very much, Luke. Good evening and welcome, everyone, I'm Francesca Hughes. I'm Head of School of Architecture, and I've now been with the school for 18 months, which has been an amazing time.
Francesca Hughes (02:43):
We have made a lot of really important transformations into the Masters program and it is a extremely vibrant, energetic, active program. With a lot of very interesting things going on in it.
Francesca Hughes (02:59):
I'm going to hand you over to the course director of Architecture Masters, Urtzi Grau, of Fake Architecture, Fake Industries. And also the course director of Landscape Architecture Masters, Penny Allan, who will speak to Landscape Architecture after Urtzi has introduced the Masters overall and spoken to the Architecture program. Many thanks. Urtzi, over to you.
Urtzi Grau (03:27):
Thank you, Francesca. Hello, everyone. I will briefly introduce the Master of Architecture. The first thing that I want to make clear is how this Masters differs to other Masters that are being offered right now in Australia. It's a straightforward answer. We are different because when you arrive to the school, to the Masters, we considered that you are already architects. That means that you are already done with the Bachelor, you're already done with the section of your education that holds your hand and tells you step by step how to become an architect.
Urtzi Grau (04:08):
When you are here, you have already achieved a degree and you're ready to enter in a space in which you have the responsibility over your own education. You are the ones who, through your choices, are going to decide what kind of architect are you going to be, what kind of architect does the world requires, what is the future of architecture practice? To ensure that that's the case, we offer a range of the studios every semester, between 12 and 10.
Urtzi Grau (04:39):
Designer studios are a range of all sorts of topics, led by extremely committed studio leaders. I would like to take you in a journey that gives you a glimpse of what we have been doing until now, because the studios of next semester are right now in the making.
Urtzi Grau (05:04):
We're literally deciding and talking with different practitioners and architects, both in Australia and around the world, to actually identify what are the projects that are worth taking. What I want to make clear is that, how it works is that every semester, you will get a document similar to this one, at least 12 to 10 studios. Each of them, again, they're extremely idiosyncratic, they're specific with a lot of focus, and they're classified in a series of categories that I going to unpack.
Urtzi Grau (05:40):
The first one are Long studios. Long studios are the only studios that actually last for more than one semester. They're studios that do with the topic that they are dealing with, the complexity, or the amount of information, of the urgency or the importance require more than one semester to actually respond and come up with design solutions. What we do then is to ask specific tutors to engage in the topic for a three year long period. That period allow to... not to get the students to actually do the same studio for three years, but rather get the same topic, do it in three years and get newer students every time that build up in the knowledge that the previous semesters have done.
Urtzi Grau (06:26):
We've been running, now three year studios in that model. Antarctica led by Luther King has been looking at the implications of climate change and geopolitical powers in the definition of Antarctica and how scientists are engaging with research there. Dossiers in the city, led by [Tobva Lewinsky 00:06:47] and [Rian Aldicous 00:06:49] have been looking at the securitization of cities, both here in Australia, but also collaborating closely with universities in Johannesburg and Beirut.
Urtzi Grau (07:00):
Planet City is a joint venture with the NGB in Melbourne. A two year long project in which collaborating closely with the architect and artist, [Liam Young 00:07:14]. We are designing the city for the entire population of the world. Five billion people start in one single city with the density of [inaudible 00:07:23] city that will occupy more or less the size of Tokyo.
Urtzi Grau (07:29):
We also have a series of our studios that are focusing in making. Making is a really important part of our teaching, and specifically in a school like this one, a school that as you see has the name technology associated with it. We do so by basically engaging our facilities in the advanced fabrication workshop downstairs. We do all sorts of things, we make mock-ups, mock-ups being this new format that has become a key piece to not only test materials, but actually conceptualize buildings.
Urtzi Grau (08:07):
We make lot of models, big models, models that are sometimes bigger than the students. We make one to one installations for the last few years, we've been testing one to one installations that are sometimes within the school, sometimes are outside the school. Like the case of this one, a domestic environment designed by [Bill Jackson 00:08:25].
Urtzi Grau (08:26):
We do situated making, making that happens, not necessarily in the laboratory like space of the studios, but actually out there, in the city, in the countryside, like this one done by the students of [Jose Maria Torres Nadal 00:08:38].
Urtzi Grau (08:40):
We also like to bring to you those projects, ophthalmic projects, research projects that are not available in Sydney or in Australia, right? To do that, we ask people that are not necessarily at the attached to university to teach every semester. The range is quite wide, we go from professionals that maybe have studies, practices in Sydney or Melbourne, and some of those cities in Australia, to [inaudible 00:09:15] to get people that are actually right now outside.
Urtzi Grau (09:18):
We do this because two reasons. One is because not always one can have access to these professors, but also during the COVID situation. What we used to do there was, to travel a lot to certain studios abroad, it's not possible. We expect in 2021, maybe, we will recover the possibility of running again traveling studios, but in the meantime, what we are going to do is to bring the outside in.
Urtzi Grau (09:48):
We've done that with Jose Maria Torres Nadal, from admin of the school of Alicante, and probably one of the brains behind the wave of contemporary Spanish architecture.
Urtzi Grau (09:59):
We've done that with Liam Young, as I mentioned before, from Tomorrow's Thoughts Today, a practice between London and LA, that is right now running the Masters of Visualizations hierarchy in LA, and is there teaching together with [Maria 00:10:15].
Urtzi Grau (10:17):
We asked [Mark Raggett 00:10:18] from ARM, one of the seminal appearance of Melbourne in to join us this semester. Candelapas, Angelo Candalepes, comes join us regularly, every autumn semester, to bring both his experience, and the intensity of his teaching.
Urtzi Grau (10:35):
Other Architects, Dave and Grace have been running a series of studios called, Dead by Design, in which they're exploring the contemporary takes of cemetery design.
Urtzi Grau (10:52):
Supercontext, [Andrew Daly 00:10:52] and [Eduard Fernandes 00:10:53] have been working with us this semester, have been looking at schools as projects.
Urtzi Grau (11:01):
Also, as you can see, these contemporaries are not necessarily organized in the way that they're not overlapping. Of course, studio could be... [inaudible 00:11:10] the studio that is doing making and is engaging with research, and in this case there is another category that we call Landscape Studios.
Urtzi Grau (11:18):
During the autumn semester, every year, we have joined the studios in which the students of the Masters of Landscape and the [inaudible 00:11:27] of Landscape sit together with students of Architecture in studios that are joined, therefore the projects that they're dealing with overlap between both disciplines, that of course they are related, in a way they're almost cousins. They discuss from advanced methodologies to deal with problems, over a contemporary problems, problems in the present that probably can not, or shouldn't be any more addressed with the limited set of tools or one single discipline, and require a rather large approach, a more holistic approach, and these studios are ideal.
Urtzi Grau (12:07):
This semester, Penny Allan, who will join us afterwards, is running together with [James Nelson 00:12:13], the studio, Fire, when she will be able to talk about it. It's looking at the aftermath of the fires that we suffered through the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020.
Urtzi Grau (12:29):
This came with[inaudible 00:12:29] is working on interspecies care in Antarctica. Jose Maria Torres Nadal is reconceptualizing the type of institutions that are going to be dealing with climate change. This is all the selection of course. In the coming semester there will be other hiring studios.
Urtzi Grau (12:56):
I want to close with this specific category that I think is plenty important for us. It's called Fundamental Studios. Fundamental studios are studios that propose in something that maybe haven't been [inaudible 00:13:10] in the different categories that are building, like designs.
Urtzi Grau (13:14):
We are absolutely aware that one of the columns, the purest of architectural education is the ability to produce buildings, not only design buildings that are a good design. But actually that have a level of resolution that will transform it's students, the students of the Masters in a extremely successful professionals.
Urtzi Grau (13:35):
To do that we offer every semester course studios that will go fundamental. There is studios that not only focus on building but also [inaudible 00:13:45] bring together a group of professional consultants that work closely with the students, at the same time that they're doing the [inaudible 00:13:56] in the studio.
Urtzi Grau (13:57):
They work with them as if the students were in an office, right. Basically, the students will bring the project, they will bring the design, at the stage of development and will sit with a professional consultant, off-site consultant, and structural consultant an environmental consultant and also expert on Aboriginal narratives in the city, to discuss how to develop further the project. By the end of the semester, we're don't have only the set of documentation usually come out from the Masters of these during the Masters but also a set of documents that demonstrate the ability of the students to become a professional architect.
Urtzi Grau (14:39):
The semester, for example will run the Contemporary Studio led by, [inaudible 00:14:43] on the rare design of the government Architect's Office. And Dirty Talk by [Miguel Rodriguez-Casellas 00:14:51] that they're actually doing that literally [inaudible 00:14:55] because the consultants come on the second half of the semester. Domestic Formalities like Bill Jackson is also looking at housing and new types of domesticities, also engaging with the consultants.
Urtzi Grau (15:10):
And Never Ideological, the studio is run by Supercontext and on the design of the schools, it's also engaging with the consultants. We have [inaudible 00:15:21] some students when they go through the four semesters of Masters, they realize that, within the variety of the studios that we're offering we'll take things into account if you're doing four semesters of [inaudible 00:15:34] studio, we'll probably offer around 48 different choices.
Urtzi Grau (15:39):
There is non that actually can host the project they have in their minds. They want to propose something that can not be comfortably fit in, in any of the different options. In those cases that are exceptional but still they're there, we offer Thesis model the last semester of the degree.
Urtzi Grau (16:04):
A student could agree with a tutor, with a studio leader, with an academic in the school, who actually develop an individual Thesis. That it's a project that is different enough complex enough or simply idiosyncratic enough to require that kind of focus.
Urtzi Grau (16:20):
This is exceptional for several reasons. Not usually hard to have a void like that but also because it's an excite of generosity and empathy, right? An academic and a student have to understand each other, have to understand that this not commonalities in the topics they've want to discus, to actually engage in a project in which... How one academic can win one achievement [inaudible 00:16:45] closely together to produce something that of course is expected to be further away than the traditional project of the Masters Studio.
Urtzi Grau (16:55):
As we see in here, for example, the exhibition that the chief students put together last year, on the archives of the government architect, so began to send a thesis [inaudible 00:17:06] involve a new building for the government architect but also a full exhibition with the documents of the missing archives of the government architect and also a publication and all.
Urtzi Grau (17:18):
This thing became almost a big even when the thesis was presented. Also the studios, by the way, we only have look at one third of what Masters full architecture is. The other third is divided between the Practice [inaudible 00:17:33] as use of, subjects that different to the studios are disabled, right?
Urtzi Grau (17:38):
The studios are [inaudible 00:17:39] they're changing completely, you never know what's going to happen next semester. I don't even know yet what it's going to be offering next semester. I'm trying to tell them as soon as possible. The Practice stream is both your theories based subjects that are extremely consistent.
Urtzi Grau (17:56):
They'd start with the subject of Research Cultures. The titles of the subjects actually always have the word "practice" preceding them and they're basically looking at what it means to practice from the perspective of [crosstalk 00:18:10] really perceive perspective.
Urtzi Grau (18:11):
In this case, what it means to practice research as an article. A subject that I have done myself and becomes a introduction to a Masters because it looks at, what are the practices or the types of research that have already happened in the Masters. We had this morning, an amazing panel review in which the students presented a amazing analysis of what are the discussions in each of these designer studios.
Urtzi Grau (18:34):
It falls with the Profession, run by our professor in Practice, [Jurrel Reignmer 00:18:38], also the main partner in [inaudible 00:18:42] architecture, in which he does more or less the same, look at how practice means, what is the new modes of practice, by inviting a professional's offices both from Sydney... right now from all around the world to actually explain, what are the modes of practice they are dealing with.
Urtzi Grau (19:03):
What is the cutting edge of practices in architecture right now. The third stop within the sequence is Finance and Project Management. In this case, run by a former head of school Anthony Burke. The form of practice moves from this big survey of what is happening outside, to actually focus on what it will mean when you run an office.
Urtzi Grau (19:27):
The subject that looks carefully at what it means to actually be managing an office, what it means to practice. Questions around contracts, liabilities, construction sets, all these things will be addressed in the subject and we close with Advocacy.
Urtzi Grau (19:42):
Advocacy is almost a summary of what you have done the last subject in the Masters [inaudible 00:19:50] by Miguel Rodriguez-Casellas, former dean of the school of architecture and [inaudible 00:19:56] Puerto Rico and our head of the Francesca Hughes, who you already met.
Urtzi Grau (20:01):
A subject that asks you to propose what you're going to be practicing. To look at everything you've done in the Masters, all the subjects, all the studios, all your projects and come up with a proposal of what you're taking from this school, up into the world.
Urtzi Grau (20:20):
A extended portfolio that not only addresses collective of the work but also asks you to have an ethical position towards the world. What kind of architect are you going to become?
Urtzi Grau (20:33):
The third section of the Masters are the Electives. To try to list them, it will be impossible, they also change but also, they change more around the studios. They are continuously reorganized because they are extremely aware of anybody that is coming by Australia, anyone that is proposing something new.
Urtzi Grau (20:53):
We have Electives that will literally pop up almost in any moment through the sequence. This semester we have, Tom Weaver, coming to visit the editor of Nod Press. We had people like [inaudible 00:21:09].
Urtzi Grau (21:08):
We had series of work shows, during the summer period, in which, we a list of local to join us, [inaudible 00:21:12] join us, a group of friends that are always around the conference reviews, that I think are keen because, in a specific moment in time there is a touch in an important topic for the present or there's simply visiting Australia where they will run a condensed elective for two weeks, in which you will ask to be in the school everyday.
Urtzi Grau (21:41):
The final section of the Masters, that maybe doesn't reflect in the curriculum but is probably as important as the other one, is the culture of Events that actually builds the Master. The Master is a program that is built, not only on the content of the subjects but in a idea of community that is constructed through the persons in the studios.
Urtzi Grau (22:05):
That space that is reserved only for Masters for the Masters students in the fourth floor of the building and there you have access 24 seven.
Urtzi Grau (22:15):
An endless amount of social events that are classic from the schools of architectures that we took extremely seriously. The Juries separation, the Juries of the [inaudible 00:22:27] in which we invite people from all over the country to actually discuss with as much precision and focus to the projects of the students.
Urtzi Grau (22:36):
The students get the crescent and get a personalized feedback. Events like Super Crit in which the best proposals of which the studio will present in a public venue [inaudible 00:22:50] of all the students. Both demonstrating the quality of the production in the school but also giving us a glimpse of... a cross section of all the discussions that are happening in the Masters.
Urtzi Grau (23:03):
The final review, that fantastic event, that involves setting up a massive exhibition that takes over a section of the school, in which normally, we have reviews but we have visitors, we have discussions, we have invitees that come to discuss. We have industry coming to visit.
Urtzi Grau (23:20):
Parity, probably one of the most intense moments in the studio, in which those two [inaudible 00:23:27] discuss with each other what are the values of the studios they are proposing but also come with a agreement on what are the grades that the school thinks all the projects should have.
Urtzi Grau (23:42):
What are the limits of what is the minimal amount of quality that we will accept as something that could pass but also what os the maxim on or what able the best projects.
Urtzi Grau (23:53):
This is, as you can see a collective project, in which everyone teaching the Masters is involved.
Urtzi Grau (24:00):
Lectures. Every semester we run endless lectures, not only the ones that are done by the school at a hall, like the [inaudible 00:24:07] from this semester, but also this semester for example, we're having three studios running... Three Masters studios running on electro series. Public corporate is running a series of lectures on public corporate practices. [inaudible 00:24:25] a series of lectures with the artist from Beirut.
Urtzi Grau (24:28):
Let me think. An [inaudible 00:24:31] geologicalist is talking with practices in Europe that have been doing [inaudible 00:24:38] in similar projects. We also have a gallery space that right now is closed because of Coronavirus in the fifth floor of the school. That is a space that have a place an intrinsic [inaudible 00:24:50] in the culture of the school and I will hope that it get open as soon as possible.
Urtzi Grau (24:56):
[inaudible 00:24:56] real note on the topic of Coronavirus. The Masters has been approved and is the only program in the entire school of architecture that is going to be running blended mode classes next semester, which means that, we will be the test ground to have students back into the building, student accessing the studios [inaudible 00:25:22] 25 seven, dedicated spaces for work.
Urtzi Grau (25:26):
We'll have the students working in the model making shop. I'm super excited to be able to provide the semester with students. As much as they have to do, it's an amazing work they chose. We're missing the ability to engage with other people, the Zoom is not enough, it's great and we've been able to do a lot of things but what we're missing is actually being able to be in the same room, with other students and the informal part of learning.
Urtzi Grau (25:51):
That is what we call the culture of the school to be [inaudible 00:25:54] in that part. That's my presentation. There is a question that maybe I could address after Penny's presentation there, the one from the [inaudible 00:26:07] interior.
Urtzi Grau (26:10):
Penny Allan (26:11):
Hey. Okay I'll show my screen. Okay. Thanks Urtzi. My presentation is going to be a little bit shorter because in a sense, architecture and landscape at the Masters level share so many of our courses. I think that's one of the most exciting things about this particular thread of programs, architecture and landscape.
Penny Allan (26:37):
Nowhere in Australia do those two disciplines intergrade so comprehensibly as they do at UTS. Incredibly exciting place to study because of that. Just going to talk about a few of the things that we've been doing in the last year.
Penny Allan (26:57):
As a bit of background, the structure of the architecture course and structure of the landscape course at the Masters level are almost identical. There are just a few little differences and I'll talk about those at the end of the series of slides I'm going to show you.
Penny Allan (27:12):
One of the most exiting things that's happened in landscape architecture, in the last year is that we've decided to completely focus on the idea of climate change, the issues associated with climate change and how, as landscape architects we might address climate change and landscapes at risk.
Penny Allan (27:37):
I'm just going to talk you through a couple of the studios. You've already seen Antarctica. This is the studio that is open to architects and landscape architects. In the Masters program, every spring we have landscape focus studios, which is exclusively for landscape and I'm going to talk to you about those.
Penny Allan (27:57):
This one is another one that's offered to architects and landscape architects. This Fire studio is the one that I ran. I'm still running it, we're about to do our final reviews in a weeks time. It's about the bushfire at the end of last year, on the south coast, in Rosedale.
Penny Allan (28:16):
And we're looking at communities living in fire prone areas and how as landscape architects and architects we can enhance the resilience of those communities.
Penny Allan (28:29):
Just going to show you a little bit of work from that. Then we travel a lot, last year we took students to Hong Kong, to look at the impacts of urban density on ecologies and ecosystems, and in particular, novel ecosystems and how, in urban environments that are incredibly dense, landscape is still there. What kind of landscape is it? How can we encourage it thrive, so that people who live in dense cities can live comfortably.
Penny Allan (29:09):
Here's an example of the work from that. Then we went to Byron Bay. We took students, this was an elective. We took students to do a studio in Byron Bay looking at this water system on the inside of the coast line there. We're looking at coastal erosion and flooding.
Penny Allan (29:30):
Here's an example from that studio. Then we took students to Broken Hill. We're looking here, at the relationship between drought in Broken Hill and the health on indigenous communities, who are incredibly connected to country.
Penny Allan (29:51):
Here's an example of work from that studio. Then, unlike architecture, Thesis, is a fundamental part of the Landscape Masters program. The final semester is devoted to a semester-long, self-directed studio with a supervisor, on the subject of your choice.
Penny Allan (30:16):
As with the architecture program, Practice is an incredibly important part of the program and just to finish, here is a slide which shows the three years of the undergraduate program, the two years of the Masters program. As you can see, with the Masters, year one and year two, each semester had the studio.
Penny Allan (30:41):
The first studio in autumn is, undertaken with architecture and the second studio is landscape specific. We have all of the same practice subjects, Finance and Project Management, Research Cultures, Profession and Advocacy but they're just slightly differently organized and we four Electives as well.
Penny Allan (30:59):
Okay. Amanda, over to you.
Urtzi Grau (31:10):
There's a series-
Penny Allan (31:10):
[crosstalk 00:31:10] sharing?
Urtzi Grau (31:11):
There's a series of questions that has come on the question and answers, that I would like to address. The first one is from [Mariam 00:31:18] that is asking, "As a graduate interior, a graduate of Interior Architecture [inaudible 00:31:22] of Europe would like to transition to Masters of Architecture". Currently, this year, anyone that's coming degree of Interior Architecture needs to take the last year of the undergrad. We're changing that [inaudible 00:31:36] for next year, for 2021. In 2021, we will be offering a transition year. Transition Honors, I would call it, where you will be able to enroll from March, 2021.
Urtzi Grau (31:51):
That will allow you to, in a year, to cover the materials that would allow you to then enroll in the Masters of Architecture at UTS. The second question are from [Usef 00:32:03], "Are there any professional placements or internship opportunities during the M.Arch?".
Urtzi Grau (32:10):
We don't have any specific program of placements or internship but at the same time we are really proud to say that the big majority of our students are all working in different practices. I think that is something that sets the tone of our Masters. At the same time that they are studying they're working in paid internships, in different offices all around Sydney, which leads us to believe that actually, graduates and students in the Master of Architecture of UTS are actually, well regarded in the last group of professional offices because they're... We usually have no problems to have placements and internships and temporary positions in offices.
Urtzi Grau (33:01):
What we don't do is, we don't mediate them. Those are personal relationship between the students and the offices. What has happened in the oast and is quite common is that, because we have a section of our student leaders, our professional practitioners in Sydney, those studios lead to odd relationships between the teachers or the student leaders and the students, they'd leave eventually, to a work placement in their offices.
Urtzi Grau (33:32):
The third question, [Daniele Wu 00:33:34], "I'm about half-way through my Masters of Architecture in University of Sydney, I'm looking to transfer, can you indicate how well my existing credits will transfer over? Additionally, what are the options for an Honor Thesis extended research thesis UTAS?".
Urtzi Grau (33:53):
In principal, it shouldn't be a big of an issue to transfer. We'll have transfers all the time from different universities across Australia and beyond. I cannot answer exactly, how your credits are going to align because I will need to look at the credits themselves. These transfers are treated at a case to case. Those studios tend to be... We tend try to align professional subjects. They're commonalities of course.
Urtzi Grau (34:24):
In terms of the Honors Thesis, as I explained before, the last semester of the degree, we like to have... To see if there are students that considered on the project they want to develop, doesn't fit... There's no studio big enough or wide enough or specific enough to actually host the project, we are happy to actually explore [inaudible 00:34:50] Thesis.
Urtzi Grau (34:51):
That is exceptional, exceptional in all senses, it has to be a robust project. It requires to develop a relationship with an academic. To actually understand [inaudible 00:35:02] a project of generosity and also it's exceptional in the amount of commitment that the student should show to actually engage in that level of intensity and generosity.
Urtzi Grau (35:13):
Thesis project cannot be just another project at the studio, it has to have the deepness but also the extension and the outcomes that a Thesis project will have. I talk a little bit about the project of the government architects last year. Project by [Danna 00:35:33]. The Thesis project won the medal in the Institute for Technology. A project that was looking at the technologies that had been used to [inaudible 00:35:47] implement the lockdowns in King's Cross.
Urtzi Grau (35:50):
There are projects that are incredibly intense but of course, the space is there, we're super interested and keep developing and having every semester, a group of students, engaging in that kind of questions.
Urtzi Grau (36:05):
Mariam is asking a follow up question, "Can I enroll I the Honors transition year, in the coming semester? So that I can finish by the next year, so I do have to wait to next March, to enroll?".
Urtzi Grau (36:20):
I would love you to enroll next year but the Honors transition is not out yet. It will be accepting students in March 2021, it's literally is a premier, I will literally we're just finishing the last touches in the program, to make it work. Probably will be announced through the winter an will be open for enrollment. But enrollment won't happen until March 2021.
Urtzi Grau (36:52):
If I wait for, wait a second. If I wait [crosstalk 00:36:59]
Luke Chess (36:59):
I'll just help you there Urtzi, if you like, if you've just got a moment-
Urtzi Grau (37:04):
My daughter was coming in and I was just try to-
Luke Chess (37:06):
Of course, this is what happens when everybody works from home folks. If there are any further questions, please do ask them in the Q&A channel now. As far as we can tell, I think Urtzi, and thank you for that, has answered all of the questions today. We'll certainly give you a couple of minutes because I know, not everybody is a speedy typer.
Luke Chess (37:27):
If there's anything else that you would like to ask, in the mean time I-
Urtzi Grau (37:32):
[crosstalk 00:37:32] I realized Mariam had another question, "How long that path takes?". The transition year is one year, this entire year, two semesters basically and then you can enroll into the [inaudible 00:37:49] of the Masters.
Luke Chess (37:51):
Right, thanks Urtzi. As I said we'll just give you a couple of minutes, if you're still formulating your questions or taking a while to type them. Please do ask question now, it's not often we get an opportunity to chat to all of the academics from the school of architecture at the same time.
Luke Chess (38:08):
And I do see a question's come through Urtzi.
Urtzi Grau (38:11):
What are the requirements for entering the M.Arch? That's quite a broad question. Can you be specific about what you refer for requirements? Are you talking about the grades or are you talking about peer programs that you're enrolled. To enroll in the Masters of Architecture you basically, you have to hold a Bachelor of Architecture, and then there is a GPA. There is a series of archs, depending on the GPA you have.
Urtzi Grau (38:44):
You directly enroll or you have to submit a portfolio. I think the best way to be sure about that is to hopefully talk with Student Services or to the university or check the online [inaudible 00:38:59] at UTS because this parameters sometimes change. But I would like to know exactly what you referred to with requirements.[inaudible 00:39:13]
Luke Chess (39:17):
Once again, it's Luke here. If there are any further questions, while we still have some time, it would be great to use the Q&A channel. We do still have Penny Allan with us as well. If there're any questions specifically related to landscape architecture, she's available to discuss those with you.
Luke Chess (39:36):
I see a new question's come through Urtzi.
Urtzi Grau (39:38):
I'm a graduate in civil engineer, can I get admission in the M.Arch? Right now we don't have archs for civil engineering, it's something that we're working and we are really [inaudible 00:39:50] think in the future. I think we need to enroll in vehicle of architecture. Usually, what we do with cases like yours and again these things are evaluated case by case so I cannot give you a completely specific answer. Is that we look at the knowledge, that you have acquired in your previous degree.
Urtzi Grau (40:14):
Civil engineer has overlappings with the Bachelor of Architecture and then we are able to identify which subjects do you need to... of what kind of knowledge do you need to applicate to the level in which, you can enter Masters of Architecture.
Urtzi Grau (40:29):
Usually that happens through a process that involve, involvement but also, it's showing us our transits and things like that and then we usually [inaudible 00:40:40] have to take number of subjects from the Bachelor of Architecture.
Francesca Hughes (40:45):
Can I just chime in on that one [Mubashira 00:40:47]. We're keen to have ex engineers coming into architecture. As Urtzi's explained, what you should do is apply for the Bachelors of Architecture and I think you would get substantial prior learning recognition.
Francesca Hughes (41:03):
You would find that you have a kind of limited set of subjects that you would need to cover. And then from then, you'd obviously, assuming you'd pass the Bachelors, which I'm sure you would. You would then apply for the Masters of Architecture.
Francesca Hughes (41:20):
Mariam, thank you for your questions. Does anybody else have any further questions? The anonymous questioner who asked us about the requirements. Are you able to be more specific about your question or whether you're... whether the question is about portfolio entry? Perhaps we have addressed all possible questions.
Luke Chess (41:46):
That is a possibility, it was very thorough presentation and I'd like to thank you, Francesca for making yourself available for it and also to both of the course directors, Urtzi Grau and Penny Allan, I'd also like to thank all of the attendees, those of you who've turned up to receive the information. If we have no further questions, we'll probably end the presentation at this point.
Luke Chess (42:15):
But I would like to just finish by thanking you for you time and we do hope to see embarking on your study with us here at UTS.
Want to move into leadership in the contemporary construction industry? The UTS Graduate Certificate and Graduate Diploma in Construction Management emphasise the skills and factors you’ll need to succeed as a construction project manager in an always-evolving sector.
Recorded live on Wednesday 3 June 2020, this information webinar is presented by Craig Barry, covering the Graduate Certificate of Construction Management and the Graduate Diploma of Construction Management.
Catherine Killen (00:00):
Hi, I'm Catherine Killen. I'm the Head of School of the UTS School of Built Environment. Welcome to UTS. A degree from the UTS School of Built Environment will enable you to have a rewarding career and make a positive impact on society. Our courses prepare you for careers in planning, property development, property investment, project management, and construction. Our courses are internationally accredited. They're taught by experts with experience and industry connections. We're here to answer your questions about studying at UTS, and we hope to see you here.
Craig Barry (00:39):
Hi everyone. I'll just start this with the Acknowledgment of Country. I would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation and upon whose ancestral lands our City campus now stands. I would also like to pay respect to the Elders, both past and present, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians for this land.
Craig Barry (01:02):
Okay. So the two courses were looking at is the Graduate Certificate of Construction Management and the Graduate Diploma. Now look in practice, the certificate is the first four subjects of the diploma. So, what some students have done is enrolled in the certificate, and then they progress into the diploma, or they can look at other study paths. But effectively the diploma comprises the eight subjects and the certificate is the first four.
Craig Barry (01:36):
So, course participants, it's a fairly new course, it ran for the first time last year, and effectively was created for students that have the industry experience, but not necessarily acquired the qualifications that reflects their experience. And we've also seen a lot of students in other industries looking to transition into the construction industry. Now that has comprised builders that have been running their own business for 10, 15 years and looking to acquire qualifications because they don't want to go work for the larger companies. Design students both architecture, interior design, they're looking to transition. Or people that have been in the industry, not for as long, but are still looking to progress their career.
Craig Barry (02:29):
Now with my background, I come from a construction background, and the main objective of the certificate and the diploma is to really bring you into that industry role as much as you can. So the DAB, the Design Architecture and Built Environment School Faculty has strong industry links. I like to leverage those in as many subjects as we can by either taking students out into industry or bringing industry into the classroom.
Craig Barry (03:02):
So at least two of the subjects, one in each of the certificate and the diploma, involves site visits and are based on an active site and on a couple of subjects sprinkled throughout the certificate and the diploma. We all have guest industry expert speakers and even tutors that assist on some of the cost projects, who are all involved in industry. So, it's basically giving you the tools to integrate into the industry as quickly as you can.
Craig Barry (03:33):
So because a lot of our students are working, or are studying and working, or doing lots of other things, we've designed the courses so students can come onto campus, transact. So get involved with the course, carry out as many of the assessments during class time, and then once they leave the classroom, they can put their working hat back on and not have to worry too much about classwork.
Craig Barry (04:01):
Now with the current delivery format, that's still the case. All of the assessments are still run via online mode, and all the subjects are run in block mode. So if we take, for example, Construction Technology and Regulation, so this has been a very trying time, and that was actually run both an on-campus mode on the 13th and 14th of March. So that's a Friday and a Saturday. Typically, that's a Friday, Saturday 9:00 till 5:00. We're on campus, and then you conduct course time, one assessment, and then by close of business on the Saturday, you've got half of the subject complete, one assessment done, and then you don't have to think about the subject again until that 27 and 28 March. Now those two dates this year ended up being run via Zoom. The assessments were done online, and the major assessment was a group assignment, which everyone could do remotely or in smaller groups.
Craig Barry (05:02):
Now there's a slide later on in the presentation that talks about some government funding, but both Construction Technology and Regulation and Construction Management will be run in spring to facilitate the requirements of the government funding, which we'll look at. So effectively, that's the Graduate Certificate, Construction Technology and Regulation, Construction Management, Construction Cost Planning and Control. That's quite a very useful subject for students from both streams. And it teaches fundamentals in the most critical factor, other than safety, of course, in terms of cost planning. And then also introduces you to very relevant software, so you can walk away from that subject and have a whole new skill set at your disposal.
Craig Barry (05:51):
Project Risk, Procurement and Quality Management. Now, even before Covid, there was an online time component tutorial in that. So, that is the graduate certificate. And as I've said, that can be achieved in the back half of this year due to the government funding. So, if you want to progress, the Graduate Diploma consists of two autumn and two spring subjects, and one of the autumns is an elective.
Craig Barry (06:20):
And the final subject, the Integrated Project Delivery, that brings all of the content from the previous subjects together. And really, it's more of a workshop type subject where students are split into groups and prepare tender submissions for a real-life project that hopefully we can get you on. And then there's critique. So we take you through the whole submission tender evaluation, and then the next stage in terms of construction management plans and so on.
Craig Barry (06:52):
Now, further information can be obtained via the UTS website, which I've got links to at the end. But effectively, the eight subjects really do underpin a wide variety of the skillset that you need, if you're looking to get into that construction management role. With the diploma, there's a lot more emphasis on the professional side of things with Communications, HR, and Stakeholders, and then you do Construction Contracts. So your Construction Contract Course in terms of being able to discern between risks. Procurement risks and construction risks as part of the contract conditions and so on.
Craig Barry (07:35):
So in terms of eligibility, in summary, if you have a bachelor's degree and one year's relevant work experience that satisfies one stream of entry. Now that degree, the easy tick for that is to be a UTS recognized degree. However, a lot of the students that have enrolled in the course have come from different backgrounds, and each submission is basically individually assessed. And ultimately, what we're trying to achieve here is to ensure that a student that enrolls isn't set up for failure and that they've got a minimum level of, I suppose, proficiency, to be able to obtain success by undertaking the course.
Craig Barry (08:17):
So, if we look at their bachelor's degree with one year's relevant work experience, and again, that's individually assessed based on the merits of each application. Or, if you don't have a degree, a minimum of five years relevant work experience is also a nice, easy tick mark to enroll into the course. But as I say, each submission individually assessed by me, and I just make sure that you're set up for success.
Craig Barry (08:45):
Now, this is very relevant in terms of the COVID-19 situation. So essentially, the government is trying to get everyone busy with learning and to do that, they've subsidized particular certificates, graduate certificates. And effectively, that means the graduate certificate can be undertaken for a much-reduced amount. And effectively close of business 2020, you can obtain that graduate certificate. And we've restructured the course so two subjects that normally run in autumn will run again in autumn next year will be available online in the back half of this year.
Craig Barry (09:32):
So, in summary, Graduate Certificate available all online. And if you enroll, you can have that qualification close of business, 2020. Now, given the fast-moving environment, at the moment, and online structure and timing, the course details are still being finalized. But you can register your interest there or send any queries to that dab.communication email address.
Luke Chess (10:00):
Just one last thing on that, Craig, sorry, it's Luke here who normally just sits at the back and answers the chat questions. We should just note that the higher education certificate scheme only applies for domestic students, not international students.
Craig Barry (10:13):
Thank you very much. Okay. Now a lot of students that I meet at the conventional postgraduate nights are generally trying to decide what course is right for them, and so on, and might not necessarily have the right qualifications that enable them to enroll into the Masters of Project Management. But effectively there is generally an appetite for further study beyond the certificate diploma. So, the way the DAB Faculty works, graduates of the diploma can undertake the Masters of Project Management with an additional four subjects. Now it's not any four. It needs to be an appropriate elective. So there's sub-majors in the masters. So, in any case, just appreciate that it can give you a springboard and take some time off a Masters of Project Management Course, but you just need to make sure that the subjects you choose are appropriate.
Craig Barry (11:15):
So, how that works in practice is students will come to me if they're enrolled and express an interest in the particular topic that they'll look at in terms of electives. So then what we do is check with the course director for the Masters of Project Management, and just make sure that everyone's satisfied in terms of the elective type and the interest of the student.
Craig Barry (11:37):
Now, the benefits of this is that you can get that entry level via the certificate into the diploma, and then walk away if you proceed with the masters with an accreditation by the PMI and the Australian Student Project Management. Now the certificate and the diploma are currently up for accreditation review by the Chartered Institute of Building. So, that is underway. However, if you do have an appetite for further study, the masters does give you that option.
Craig Barry (12:07):
I've just seen a raised hand there, and I'm going, nope, the hand is gone. Okay, I'll move on. So if these courses are of interest, they are the links. If you wish to enroll, there's an online form. There's also more information at those websites. And look, that's over to you. This is generally the more enjoyable part of the evening I get to learn about where students have come from and what they're trying to achieve. And so I'll open the floor up to you as participants. If you've got any questions, either by the Q & A function-
Luke Chess (12:43):
Hello, Luke, again, given the small number of attendees as well. If you wanted to put your hand up, we'd be happy to unmute you, and you can ask your question over the mic if that's easier. There are only five attendees. So it's a fairly small and casual meeting.
Craig Barry (13:01):
Very manageable. Any questions from anyone? Okay.
Luke Chess (13:06):
Well folks at the moment, that's a very short information session. I do hope that you've managed to get the information that you require out of it. We are booked and scheduled to continue for another half an hour and are happy to stay if there are any questions. So, we'll wait around for just another couple of minutes, but if there are no further questions, do feel free to leave, and we do hope that we get to see you studying at UTS.
Luke Chess (13:29):
Okay, well, thank you, Craig, for your time and thank you to the people who have attended for your time, as well. We do hope to see you at UTS. We're available anytime to answer further questions. Email address for general questions is email@example.com. And once again, and most genuinely, we do hope to see you studying at UTS.
Luke Chess (13:53):
Craig, given there no more questions, I think I'll end the session. Okay, with you?
Craig Barry (13:57):
Thanks very much, Luke. Appreciate it. Thanks, everyone.
Luke Chess (14:00):
Right. Okay. Thank you.
The Master of Design is unique in Australia: intellectually vibrant, socially engaging, visionary, practice-focused and actively linked to industry. Study with UTS Design, and join a dynamic community of leading academics, researchers and practitioners at NSW’s top art and design school.
Cameron Tonkinwise (00:00):
Welcome to all of you who have logged in tonight to come and hear a little bit about postgraduate design studies at UTS. My name is Cameron Tonkinwise, I'm the Professor of Design Studies at the School of Design. Also joining me here is Abby Mellick Lopes who is the incoming Director of Postgraduate Design Studies, just recently joined UTS.
Cameron Tonkinwise (00:23):
So I'm going to be hosting you through this webinar and Abby is going to be here to listen to your questions and answer some questions and we might kick off. So welcome, thanks for coming.
Cameron Tonkinwise (00:39):
Before I begin, I would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation on whose ancestral lands UTS's city campus actually resides. I myself am just a little bit out further up the river, Parramatta River, I'm where some of the Gadigal people retreated when settlers first came. And so I would like to also acknowledge them as the custodians of the knowledge of this land and I would like to pay my respects to elders past, present and emerging. And welcome any Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders who've joined us this evening.
Cameron Tonkinwise (01:18):
Okay. So I'm here to introduce to you postgraduate studies at the School of Design at the University of Technology Sydney. The School of Design is at a public University of Technology. It's in an Asia Pacific city, as I said previously, acknowledging we're on Gadigal land and we're teaching in the middle of the Anthropocene, a moment in which designers are impacting geologically the whole of the biosphere of our planet.
Cameron Tonkinwise (01:44):
At the School of Design, we teach at undergraduate level animation, communication, which is now incorporating photography, we teach product design, and we teach fashion design. And at the postgraduate level, we teach service and social design.
Cameron Tonkinwise (02:00):
We're a public University of Technology, that means that we're particularly committed to civic versions of technology and that we are concerned that everything that we do in this realm in terms of building new socio technical systems improve social justice outcomes. We're a city based university, so we're particularly interested in very diverse cities, cosmopolitan built environments, much more than, just to also indicate, we sometimes have faculty who know something about rural settings but we are really focused on being a city in the Asia Pacific region.
Cameron Tonkinwise (02:35):
And as I said at the beginning, acknowledging country, we are very committed as a school to beginning the process of decolonizing design and we're doing that by really attending to the fact that we have access in this country to one of the longest standing populations on the planet in terms of a continuous functioning culture. So we have a lot to learn from our Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander colleagues, from indigenous peoples around the world who understand a lot about what it means to live sustainably.
Cameron Tonkinwise (03:07):
And we are doing this as a school, we are trying to take heed of the fact that all design has consequences. Design is not just about making things, it's about making the consequences from those things and after the 20th century it's very important that design has learned to be more responsible. Sometimes the overall context in which we are teaching at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels.
Cameron Tonkinwise (03:30):
Our Master of Design degree program has to date been a richly interdisciplinary program, very centered around studio practice with a focus on interaction design and to some extent, service design. There's now a Master of Interaction Design, the faculty of engineering, it's very digital focused but we're taking this opportunity of that degree to re-emphasize that our Master of Design degree is now more focused on design leadership and service design. These are the core areas, and I'll show you some of this as we proceed.
Cameron Tonkinwise (04:04):
So whilst we're still in the old Master of Design program for spring 2020, a lot of the studios and seminars will be refocused on design leadership and service design, and from 2021 the entire degree program will be structured around this. This restructuring the degree is being done because we're in a position to draw from a decade of expertise at the Design Innovation Research Centre. The Centre is a kind of applied research center, a type of agency within the university doing mostly social justice related design work, particularly in relation to criminal justice.
Cameron Tonkinwise (04:41):
And this work really is exemplary, it's been registered as the most impactful design research in Australia by a kind of pilot evaluation of research by the Federal Government, it's internationally known for being sort of next generation design thinking. Not just superficial but really understanding what it means to undertake social change by design. So we're in a position to draw on that expertise for the way we teach this Master of Design program.
Cameron Tonkinwise (05:11):
You can see some of the work that we're drawing on in this book which was from a Dutch publisher, it's not always available but we're happy to give you access to it. Designing for the Common Good carries a lot of the case studies from the Design Innovation Research Centre over the last 12 years.
Cameron Tonkinwise (05:29):
Our postgraduate studies in design really, as I've said, are moving into this emphasis on design leadership and service design. They've been designed for people who have design backgrounds or have been working as designers and are finding themselves now needing to move into leadership positions. They might be moving from being a designer to being a product owner within a kind of UX team. They might be the head of an innovation team of a sort of in house design unit. They might themselves be interested in founding a new design firm, moving into a position of being a principal or a partner at a design firm. They might be moving from design making to design strategy.
Cameron Tonkinwise (06:12):
Our degrees are specifically being designed for people who might have redirected themselves from a non design background into design, perhaps done some short courses in UX, service design or design thinking, and are really interested in now developing a mature practice, a mature practice in which they can be a leader in emerging fields like service and social design.
Cameron Tonkinwise (06:37):
Sorry, I'm just pausing for a minute, just wondering if anyone's got any questions. Nothing in the box so I'm just going to keep pushing on. I think it's important to say that with that preface that we are a School of Design at a public university on Gadigal land in the Anthropocene, that we are very much focused on giving mastery to people interested in leading the creation of shared value and not just shareholder value. The things we'll teach you will benefit commercial corporations but we're very interested, as I think everybody in any kind of business these days needs to be, in understanding the benefits for employees, for local communities, for future generations.
Cameron Tonkinwise (07:15):
So a lot of our work in our teaching and in our studios is focused on how designers can lead the change to more equitable, more sustainable futures. And it also means that we're really teaching designers to be not just sort of pain point reducers, not just to be solutioners for existing problems, but rather to reframe problems so that they can engage in systems level change.
Cameron Tonkinwise (07:43):
I see just at this point, someone's asking whether this does contribute to doctoral studies. It certainly does. It's possibly something I can talk to you separately about. It's not a direct line but any course work master's massively increases your eligibility for entering as a PhD student and a lot of the things that we teach in terms of design research I think are both applicable to coming up with industry leading innovations as well as developing new knowledge, which would form a basis for moving into doctoral studies. I certainly notice it's something that Abby Mellick Lopes, my colleague, is very keen to enable, so I think we're in a good position to help anybody who would like to make that shift. So the answer to that question is yes, from Edward.
Cameron Tonkinwise (08:34):
Okay. So we've got two degrees in particular to talk about for you this evening. This one is very red and caused me to glow red in the background so don't be alarmed by the redness of that. This spring we are actually running a short course, a Graduate Certificate in Social and Service Design. It's a 24 credit point short course. It entails four six credit point subjects that will be done in online semi intensive fashion. So they'll run in two five week sessions over the spring semester so you can get a complete graduate certificate which is effectively full time study by just finding evenings and a little bit of a weekend to engage with us online in those four subjects.
Cameron Tonkinwise (09:21):
This was a degree program which is distinctly based on the work of the Design Innovation Research Centre and particularly its core processes which center around what we call frame creation or frame innovation which is about problem framing. And then once one's reframed a problem in order to open up different solution fields then the way in which you co-evolve problem framing and solutioning in the kind of process that I think the Design Innovation Research Centre kind of uses.
Cameron Tonkinwise (09:56):
I think someone had their hand up, I ask that you possibly just write a note in the questions just so we have a record of your question, if it's possible for you to ask your question just in text form at the moment. So just do that and I'll just keep proceeding and then we'll see if we can have a bit of a discussion at the end.
Cameron Tonkinwise (10:18):
This course, as I said, it has these core method driven components, Frame Creation and Problem Solution Co-evolution. I think of these as really mature, next generation types of design thinking, really social design led innovation. These are then also book ended, top and tailed by an Introduction to Mature Service Design, not just methods and tools but really thinking about concepts and politics of service design. And then we take beyond business as usual in Leading Design for Social Innovation in which we introduce some the designally leadership strategies that might help social innovation design.
Cameron Tonkinwise (10:57):
So this is the Graduate Certificate in Social and Service Design which will be running in spring. These 24 credit points directly become recognized prior learning for the master's degree. Some of these subjects are existing in the new coming master's degree, both Frame Creation and Service Design Foundations and Leading Design for Social Innovation and Problem Solution Co-evolution will count anyway. So if you did this Graduate Certificate in spring you can parlay straight into the master's and have only another 24 or 48 depending on your prior education.
Cameron Tonkinwise (11:35):
The Master of Design program that's coming, as I said, is focused on design leadership. It has a core set of subjects there, you can see in the middle, Higher Order Designing, which is kind of Dick Buchanan's language around the four orders of design. Frame Creation which I just described which is central to the practice of the Design Innovation Research Centre. Value Design which is thinking about different types of ways in which designers create value and different types of value not just commercial value. And Organization Design, something we think is desperately lacking in a lot of design education and something that our industry colleagues have made very clear to us, that we should be teaching designs at a postgraduate level.
Cameron Tonkinwise (12:18):
To the left are 24 credit points in studio based designing. Those are designed for people who have not had a studio based design background. So if you have not had a bachelor degree in a design or allied area, you've only taken short courses and you haven't had much experience but you're starting to work as a designer, then we'd encourage you to take those 24 credit points so that you really understand what it is that the material practice of design in a studio does and how to learn in a studio fashion. If you've got a bachelor's degree then you can get RPL for those so essentially a 72 credit will become a 48 credit.
Cameron Tonkinwise (13:03):
So in fact, Martin if I'm just looking at your question there about space for people who are from fine arts. So certainly the degree would encourage that transition and I think we could have a conversation with you about how much your art practice, particularly in relation to book design let's say or web design, has met some of what we think would be adequate to really begin learning design leadership, and if not we might encourage you to take those practice based designing, studio based designing subjects in that first 24 credit points.
Cameron Tonkinwise (13:38):
So those 24 credit points are allowing people to pivot from allied fields into design. Arts a little more allied than others, though sometimes a lot of art practice I think is missing particularly kind of user driven problem solving approaches. Which are really central to design studios as opposed to art studios. But that's something that we'd be really happy to have a conversation on a case by case basis.
Cameron Tonkinwise (14:06):
So we've got that pivot set of subjects, we've got the core in terms of design leadership, and it's then possible to focus on leading design as the last set of 24 credit points that you might do, really learning about the specifics of team management, conflict management, negotiation, understanding how to create organizational cultures, understanding what's involved in growing organizations. A lot of designers suddenly find themselves growing rapidly and are not well skilled in doing that. And then finally, something that we've realized in our work at the Design Innovation Research Centre, which is that if you really want to innovate, it's not enough just to be an innovative firm, you actually have to go outside and transform the whole of the sector you're in. Kees Dorst has been talking a lot about this recently and I think it's a really important new perspective on innovation.
Cameron Tonkinwise (15:00):
So we have that subject there about being an advocate, about participating in community as a practice, attending conferences and giving speeches and educating so that you're actually changing the ecosystem into which you are designing. You could also then focus instead on service design. So you take the Design Leadership core and then really develop as an expert service designer. We couple these two things, we think that all service design is about transforming organizations, transforming client's organizations, transforming not for profits, transforming community organizations. You cannot just do service design without having the capacity to transform. And so that's why you need to be a design leader to do service design. Service design can't be done without design leadership so that's why we are coupling these.
Cameron Tonkinwise (15:56):
The service design subjects there, as I've said, we have a way of understanding the concepts and politics of service design, when you design services you're designing people and it's very important to understand what's involved in that. I think a lot of methods and tools gloss over some of those politics. So a mature service designer really understands the responsibilities that they are taking on by designing services. Researching services is very different from doing conventional user research or even user experience research, it requires researching not just customers but employees, it means researching communities, researching expectations, it needs to be a very well socially research informed.
Cameron Tonkinwise (16:41):
There are very particular ways of communicating services. We've been quite critical in our existing Master of Design studios for a long time of service blueprints, which we think are really inadequate ways of capturing the experiences that designers are trying to design when they do service design. And obviously the implementation of a service is a long continuous process which requires a lot of embedding by a designer, very different from just finishing off some blueprints, handing them over to a manufacturer and then waiting for the retailer to sell them.
Cameron Tonkinwise (17:14):
So that's the core of our service design component. We're going to be one of the only master's of design degree in Australia teaching service design. The whole of the service design industry from all of my contacts are begging for service design education. If you go to any service design firm in Australia, you'll find that it's filled with people from America, Europe and particularly Scandinavia and the United Kingdom because there just haven't been good degree programs teaching mature service design practice. A lot of service design practitioners in Australia are product designers or communication designers who've kind of taught themselves service design or they're people who've just taken a short course in service design and are trying to learn on the job. So we think we're going to be providing a very important service to industry with this particular major.
Cameron Tonkinwise (18:05):
And we have other majors that we're planning in the future and so we're thinking about fashion leadership, we have some new highers coming into this space and so in the future we'll be able to add other areas of design leadership to this degree program. There's an interesting question from Ruby there in relation to service design being in demand. Service design has been led in Australia very much in the financial services sector so banks and insurance companies have done a lot of service designing, a lot of them have pivoted back to UX and digital design.
Cameron Tonkinwise (18:42):
We are now finding service design units a lot in government agencies, so a lot of the post digital transformation work that's occurred in government agencies has been service design. You're finding service design in a lot of not for profit community sectors particularly disability services work. You're finding service design in education, a lot of the work the Design Innovation Research Centre is doing for UTS itself, we treat UTS as a client as well even though we're a member of UTS, we're doing a lot of work improving the service provision of higher education. Which as you may know, hopefully not from this degree, could do with some redesign, it has some very clunky old aspects.
Cameron Tonkinwise (19:27):
So in fact there's been a lot of service design moving through the economy in different areas. You're now finding in fact even we've been doing some work at the Design Innovation Research Centre for law firms, we've been doing some work a lot in the health sector, one is even finding interestingly enough that architects very close to designers are needing to improve the ways in which they do their services. So I think service design still has a long way to go as a growth industry. I think it's something we really need to learn how to do very well. I think the first wave have not done it well and so to some extent that growth is most quality and quantity.
Cameron Tonkinwise (20:13):
Okay. The Graduate Certificate in Service and Social Design has been created very much under the current context, the current context of COVID, a lot of people needing to pivot and move. So we're being very relaxed with the admission requirements, we really want to help people skill in this area. And so we're looking for people who are able to have portfolios of relevant work experience but we really want people to come just because they want to learn about social and service design. They want to learn about service design particularly in relation to social justice contexts, people who know something about the Design Innovation Research Centre and its world leading work and would like to learn some of those methods and processes.
Cameron Tonkinwise (21:03):
To get into the master's program, it's always required that you have a recognized bachelor's degree or equivalent. As I said, we're looking for allied disciplines getting recognized prior learning for some of that studio based designing, if not then we would ask that you take that. So we will take people from different disciplines. We're also asking that everybody who wants to enter needs to provide some kind of portfolio. We're doing this mainly to just evaluate the levels of your design skills, your understanding of design research. It's not something that we use to exclude you from the program, it's something by which we come to understand how it is that we can best service you.
Cameron Tonkinwise (21:54):
The Graduate Certificate, I said before, has deliberately been designed in this particular context, so it is both online and intensive and it will be running, as I said, in two sessions, August and October, so you'll take two subjects in parallel in August and two subjects in parallel in October. The master's course will have some online seminars. We are all I think, at the School of Design, very eager to get back into the studio. Designing is a material practice even if that material is social. I think it's very important that we be able to negotiate in face to face ways. We will always be doing that at UTS in ways that reduce the risk in relation to COVID obviously whilst that is still around. But the master's program will be structured with a combination of online and studio. All subjects, even when they're seminars, have project based assignments.
Cameron Tonkinwise (22:56):
I think the key thing to say about the master's degree is that it will be coupled closely with a lot of the live projects that the Design Innovation Research Centre at UTS is conducting. So there will be lots of opportunities to shadow projects, to learn from previous cases, and to engage in live projects that are occurring at that space and we'll be encouraging internships as well after the degree or in holidays between the degree. So I think this is an opportunity, really experience leading social design in Australia but particularly the world. We're one of the only universities that has a really expert agency doing this kind of research led social design work.
Cameron Tonkinwise (23:49):
Okay. So that's me having spoken very quickly, I'm sorry, about the degree programs, the Graduate Certificate in Social and Service Design and the Master of Design program. The Master of Design program can be entered in spring. As I said, the studios will have leadership and social innovation and service design inflections. And then we will be migrating the program to this design leadership and service design program from 2021.
Cameron Tonkinwise (24:20):
Ruby's asking about part time. It certainly will be possible to take those subjects individually so you could take one instead of two in parallel. So it would be possible for you to do just one of the subjects and then take another one in October and then another one in the autumn sessions of 2021. So you could effectively do one a one semester Graduate Certificate over two semesters part time. I think it might actually be possible for you to be working, the classes are all going to be actually scheduled the live sessions in the evening. So if you could downscale your work at that time I think it might be possible for you to knock over the whole degree in the August and October sessions but you can certainly do it part time as well.
Cameron Tonkinwise (25:12):
In terms of, just some of the questions coming in now, just in terms of communication degrees as a background, certainly a lot of our current candidates and candidates we're looking for are people who have come from communication degree backgrounds. Obviously communication is a crucial skill to all types of designing. Designing is about making visible futures in ways that persuade people to realize them, either to manufacture them or to actually begin enacting them in terms of a service. So it's crucial to have communication design skills. So that is a core degree which we do recognize and it normally does articulate directly with our master's degree program. So it would depend on the nature of the communication degree, I see you've indicated that it has an advertising specialization. I'm sure it would be fine but we would have a look at the portfolio and contact and talk to you about that. But as I say, many of the candidates that we have already in the program have communication degree backgrounds.
Cameron Tonkinwise (26:18):
Edward's asked about the contact hours for the master's. So ordinarily you would do 24 credit points, that would normally be, in the current structure, that would be one 12 credit point studio and two six credit point subjects. So that tends to mean studios tend to meet at least three hours a week and then seminars tend to run one and a half hours per week. So it's sort of six contact hours. The studios tend to have longer hours beyond that because obviously you're engaged in quite intense making. So it's ordinarily contact and it's six hours. The Masters of Design program always tries to schedule classes after 5:00. So it is possible to have a full time job and do a full time master's degree. It's not recommended because essentially the number of hours that we're thinking you should be working on your degree are 35 roughly hours per week including contact.
Cameron Tonkinwise (27:28):
So it's a bit like doing two full time jobs but that is the way some people do do it because we schedule the contact hours in an evening. So that's ordinarily how it happens and that's certainly the way we will continue. So it's roughly six to eight hours a week contact with an expectation that you're doing let's say, don't quote me on this, 20 to 30 hours a week on those seminars and studios.
Cameron Tonkinwise (28:01):
Ruby's asking particularly about the online experience. So one of the interesting things in answer to this question, just in relation to the service design, which I think absolutely I did indicate that our preference would be to doing these things face to face, I think it's very important to learn social skills as a social designer, as a service designer and even as a designer. I think most design is about persuading people, talking to people, so you need to get a lot of practice at talking to, arguing, defending, critting, these are all things that should be done verbally and are done best when you can get the full cues of how somebody's communicating by being I think in the same room as them.
Cameron Tonkinwise (28:44):
Nevertheless, we've all had to pivot and learn in these, let's say unprecedented, to be cliché, times. The Design Innovation Research Centre is I think a world expert in doing workshop based design research. They are very much workshop driven. We are people who host and run workshops in every single project. This is crucial and I think we do it in very mature ways in which we facilitate conflict a lot better than superficial design thinking sessions. We've had to learn how to do those workshops online in the last three months. We've had to work out how to take very difficult topics, one of the topics that we're looking at the moment specifically is to do with the rise in rates of domestic violence that have been occurring under lockdown. So we've been running workshops with government agencies, with various DV entities, with people themselves. We've been trying to run workshops in order to understand this problem space so that we can do problem reframing.
Cameron Tonkinwise (29:52):
So we've skilled up very quickly in working out right levels of time, ways of briefing, ways of doing cultural probe work in which we get people to do work away and then bring it in, and then having sharing spaces like Miro and Mural, having these kind of spaces in which people are able to work in real time but also kind of just upload some of what they've been doing. So I think we are in a very good position to say that we're approaching online experience, online learning very much as the way we are running online workshops. We are bringing our experience in running workshops to how we are teaching. So this hasn't just been a kind of drag and drop from lectures online being recorded to then just go and watch them on your own time.
Cameron Tonkinwise (30:46):
We are still having very project based work centered around this and we've been using our expertise in workshop to deliver that. So it's not perfect, I think we have a lot of complaints about the media that we're working in. I think we have a lot of social skills that we need to develop, I think a lot of what's involved in being online is actually the development of social rituals and social etiquette. The difficulty of me trying to look like I'm very engaged at the moment while reading at the same time and noticing people with their hands up and getting worried when attendees leave, all these factors, which I think I'm much more skilled at handling in face to face, we just don't have the etiquette for this. So I think it's a really interesting moment in which to be a designer and particularly a service designer thinking about this but we have been thinking about it a lot and we take what it means to teach online very seriously.
Cameron Tonkinwise (31:40):
So I'm just looking at Martin's question there. So the Graduate Certificate is four subjects. It can be done entirely within the spring semester. We're going to be running two of the subjects in the August unit of the UTS calendar which is essentially five or six weeks for the whole of August and a couple into September. And then we'll run another two subjects in the October session which is the whole of October and the beginning of November. So you can knock over two subjects August, two subjects October and that will be a full time 24 credit point Graduate Certificate done in one semester.
Cameron Tonkinwise (32:26):
So those are online and intensive, so I do need to warn you, they are intensive, you're doing a whole semesters work in sort of five weeks. There are contact hours maybe once a week and sometimes twice a week, sometimes weekend sessions, there'll be moments in which you need to be doing research yourself and then bringing it back and sharing it and then doing presentations online. But that Graduate Certificate can be done in the semester.
Cameron Tonkinwise (32:55):
At the moment in terms of fee help, I think my other colleagues are in a better position to give you information about that, my complete academic ignorance. There are some conventional forms of fee help but this did not manage to meet the Federal Government's stipulations for very instrumental training in which the Federal Government could help you. So unfortunately this is just a regular degree program which we think is of high value but I understand may not have possibilities for everybody to come to. But UTS has many different ways in which it might be able to help.
Cameron Tonkinwise (33:31):
So I hope I've answered both of Martin's questions there. I don't know if anyone's got other questions that they've been sitting on, any other issues you'd like to cover, any other examples of the kind of work we do. I'm not sure if anyone... Sorry, just while I'm waiting for you to think of some questions, certainly not [Graume 00:34:11] if I've got your name correctly, we're absolutely interested in being an inclusive program and so I think it would be terrible if we had age constraints on it. Though we do have expectations that you've had some work experience so there might be lower limit age on the Graduate Certificate, but certainly not at the upper end. In fact, I think we all understand that design these days, particularly in the era of a lot of these protests occurring at the moment, could do with a lot more diversity.
Cameron Tonkinwise (34:47):
A lot of design is often thought of as being a youngish profession, it's obviously often a very white profession. I think it would be great to see significant diversity in the people learning to design and becoming design leaders and so that diversity is not just in the people we design with but the designers themselves.
Cameron Tonkinwise (35:11):
Sorry, so I was saying just while I wait for anybody else who has any other questions, I should just indicate something about me if you don't know. I have a background in philosophy originally. I was teaching design studies at the University of Technology Sydney after I finished my PhD, I developed a design studies program within the undergraduate and taught ETS from 2003 to 2008. I then had the great fortune of teaching at Parson's The New School for Design in New York. I was teaching there in an environmental studies program, became the Associate Dean of Sustainability at Parson's in New York. And then spent another five years running the doctoral studies program at Carnegie Mellon University before needing to come back to look after some elders and very glad to be back at UTS now being the director of the Design Innovation Research Centre.
Cameron Tonkinwise (36:14):
So Ruby's just asking, "Can I confirm opportunities to work with industry?". Absolutely. So as I said, the degree program has directly developed out of the methods and expertise of the Design Innovation Research Centre. The studios have briefs that all concern projects that we are doing. Sometimes those are live projects that the Design Innovation Research Centre is currently contracted to be researching and investigating and proposing solutions to. And I should say that those are opportunities to do things that I think very rarely occur in commercial practice. So we get a lot of the work that I just don't think a lot of commercial firms can do, a lot of commercial consultancies can do. So these are really interesting and challenging projects that don't normally go to service design firms or consultancies or regular design strategy firms.
Cameron Tonkinwise (37:16):
Sometimes even though the briefs are interesting, they can still be constrained, they can be constrained by our partners. So often what we will do is do the project with a partner and then find ways to take that same brief and run it again, run it with slightly more open conditions or taking it into places the partner wasn't comfortable with. And we will still then try to get the partners back in to see that work. So studios give us a chance to actually go back to industry and government partners and say, "We're in a position to actually rethink some of these and come up with broader, more interesting proposals from people who are studying at a master's level,". And so often the briefs, if they're not live, will be previously live projects and then we will bring those clients in to act as critics and reviewers or briefers of those projects. So absolutely there is an opportunity to work with those kinds of projects and problems. That's the whole purpose of the degree.
Cameron Tonkinwise (38:26):
Edward's asking a question just about the RPL. So I was just saying, if you have a design background, if you have a design degree program, with the existing master's some of the subjects may be given recognition of prior learning. If they're postgraduate subjects they definitely can be given recognition of prior learning. In the future degree program, if you have a design background, that will essentially cover 24 of the 72 credits. So this means that if you have a bachelor of design program or closely related, then the degree program is only a 48 credit points, a two semester full time, a one year master's program if you have a design background. If you don't, we'll ask that you do those 24 credit points of studio based designing, learning about design prototyping, design research, learning something about the concepts behind interaction and learning... I can't remember what the last one was. Oh, different strategies of communication.
Cameron Tonkinwise (39:34):
If you have a background in product design and the BCII then definitely have a conversation with Abby and myself. I think we can definitely find RPL for you. In the future you will definitely get 24 and it'll just be a one year master's. But for the current master's if you came in in the spring, we can definitely have a look and negotiate that for you.
Cameron Tonkinwise (40:01):
At the moment the ratio is about one third, two thirds, so one third local, two thirds international. I think part of our reason for reorienting the program to design leadership and service design is because of demands from a local market who have been asking. So both employers have been asking for increased design leadership to service design skills. So to some extent we're feeling like the local demand for the degree program will increase.
Cameron Tonkinwise (40:40):
Nevertheless, I think we've always thought that the best learning environment, particularly in a 21st century realm in which we need to begin to decolonize design, de-Eurocentrisize design, design has been a very Eurocentric practice for a hundred years, we really strongly encourage and try to find ways in which international students who can bring a diversity of cultural backgrounds to the program can participate. We think the most interesting design these days is happening in non English speaking backgrounds and design that's taking heed of very different social, cultural values, very different senses of what the future should be, these are the things that designers need to learn to design toward.
Cameron Tonkinwise (41:29):
So we think the mix will shift in the future but we think there'll be more than a third local but nevertheless I think there'll always still be a strong international component precisely because that's what we want to teach toward.
Cameron Tonkinwise (41:48):
If there's nothing else, I would really encourage you to email my colleague Abby Mellick Lopes, you can totally feel free to email me but Abby is now stepping in as the director of postgraduate design studies and she can certainly answer your questions particularly in terms of the processes of actually coming to enroll in the Graduate Certificate in Social and Service Design or the Master of Design program. So I'd encourage you to contact her. There are lots of channels for communicating to UTS, Abby's there, she's prepared to say hello. Abby should introduce herself, something about her background.
Abby Mellick Lopes (42:23):
Hi everyone, I'm Abby Mellick Lopes. I come to UTS, I'm pretty new, from Western Sydney University where I've really specialized in social design and looking at the ways in which design can help communities become more resilient and I'm really looking forward to taking leadership in this postgraduate space. And as Cameron said, please get in touch with me. You will get some kind of an email response from us that will give you further instructions on what to do. As Cameron said, we'd like to know a little bit more about you. And so yes, please, be in touch. We're really looking forward to talking to you.
Cameron Tonkinwise (43:05):
Great. Thanks Abby. Okay. So get in contact with any other questions. I hope we've given you a good sense of the program, our motivations for creating it. Sorry, quick question there coming about the difference between a master's of design and design research. So I think you might mean the difference between a course work degree in the master's of design which is what we've been speaking about and a research master's in design. So the difference is that in a course work degree there are courses, there are subjects, we have decided what we think it's really important for you to learn and we can teach that stuff to you, we can guarantee that we're experts and we can teach it to you. A research degree is where you have a sense of the questions that you want to ask. If it's research you probably have a feeling or know that those answers don't currently exist and so you want help, you want scaffolding from academics to help learn how to answer those questions.
Cameron Tonkinwise (44:11):
So a research master's does not have course work components, you can take a couple of courses in research methods or research ethics which you have to take. But essentially you are leading the learning process and we are supporting you and you are coming to discover something new from the question you have. So a research master's is question led, you have to come to us with a question, you have to bring a question to faculty and chat to us about it, takes about a semester to formulate the question in the right way and then to make an application to do a research master's. So it's slightly more laborious to get into but it allows you more freedom to explore the sorts of topics and in the ways that you would like to within our kind of advice settings. But it's not a situation in which there are specifically subjects.
Cameron Tonkinwise (45:08):
So in the course work master's we've decided it's very important for designers to learn designally leadership strategies and something about service design so that's what we're teaching but if you were to come and do a master's by research, you might decide that you really want to know something about what it would mean to do workshop based designing in the age of social distancing. That's something that I've said we're researching ourselves now, we've got some hunches but we're not certain. If you would just like to spend sort of two years thinking about that, a year and a half thinking about that, then you would formulate a question, do some literature review, make sure nobody else has answered it and then plan some experiments and design projects in that space. We would scaffold you, you'd have supervisors and they would help you through that process.
Cameron Tonkinwise (46:00):
So that's what a research degree is. It's normally quite distinct from a course work degree which is much more content driven. So I hope that explains the difference between those two. They have different pathways in, different types of admission and they require you generally to be in conversation with us. Although we would encourage everybody to be in conversation with us, even for the course work degree. We're very keen to obviously be customer centered and user centered because we're designers and so we're not particularly interested in offering a commodified degree. So as I said before, do get in contact with Abby with any questions.
Cameron Tonkinwise (46:41):
If there are no other questions I might go and start making dinner for my family who are agitating in the background. My dog in particular is hassling me at my feet right now. And so if you've got any other questions please do get in contact but otherwise thanks so much for coming this evening.
Luke Chess (47:01):
This might be a good moment for me to jump in, this is Luke speaking, one of the moderators for this evening, just to thank you Cameron for your time presenting what was a very thorough outline of the postgraduate offerings in design from UTS. And thank you to everybody who's attended and for your often insightful questions. We hope that you'll choose UTS for your design studies.
A UTS postgraduate degree in planning helps to provide you with a career path for design, planning and property professionals. You’ll be equipped with a broad understanding of planning issues, as well as the negotiation and creative thinking skills required to resolve them.
Recorded live on Wednesday 3 June 2020, this information webinar is presented by Dr Gabriela Quintana, covering the Master of Planning, Graduate Certificate in Planning and Master of Property Development and Planning.
Gabriela Quintana (00:02):
Well, welcome to this webinar today. Let's start. My name is Gabriela and I'm the course director in planning.
Catherine Killen (00:16):
Hi, I'm Catherine Killen. I'm the Head of School of the UTS School of Built Environment. Welcome to UTS. A degree from the UTS School of Built Environment will enable you to have a rewarding career and make a positive impact on society. Our courses prepare you for careers in planning, property development, property investment, project management, and construction. Our courses are internationally accredited. They're taught by experts with experience and industry connections. We are here to answer your questions about studying at UTS, and we hope to see you here.
Gabriela Quintana (00:57):
So I would like to acknowledge the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation, upon whose ancestral lands our city campus now stands. I would also like to pay respect to the Elders, both past and present, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians of knowledge for this land.
Gabriela Quintana (01:18):
So, the planning program. We have three main entry points to planning. The first one is a graduate certificate in planning, then we have the master, and then we have a joint degree between property development and planning. The graduate certificate is only four subjects if you do it full time. The master of planning, you have to take 12 subjects, and the master of property development and planning is comprised by 16 subjects. If you want to enroll in the master of planning, but then you say that you want to leave the program beforehand, there is also the graduate diploma in planning, which is an exit point to this degree.
Gabriela Quintana (02:09):
So what is the background of our degree? What is it that differentiates us from other planning degrees? First of all, we have a comprehensive approach to planning. For us, planning is about understanding the relevance of the context and focusing on the strategic part of what planning is involved. We touch on how to do a DA, a development assessment. We touch on other day-to-day things that you can do in a council, but we want to provide our students with all the skills that you need to be able to develop yourself into any of the different specialties within planning.
Gabriela Quintana (02:54):
So we touch on regional and structural planning. We touch the master planning, urban design. We touch on community engagement and negotiation. We touch on urban economics, and we discussed a little bit also of transport planning. So this degree is to give you those skills for you to build on in your professional life later on.
Gabriela Quintana (03:19):
This degree is focused not just on people who want to broaden their current knowledge in planning, but also for those who want to change careers. So we provide those fundamentals for you to be able to then register as a planner and work in this field. For that, we have a close link with industry. So we have a lot of guest lecturers and guest speakers, and we have a lot of real-life case studies that we bring into our degree, because we collaborate with private practice, with state government, and with local government.
Gabriela Quintana (04:05):
One of the advantages is that we do understand that planning is not isolated in a context. To do urban planning, you need to understand other contextual matters, just as the market and property development, which is why we have this joint degree with these other disciplines.
Gabriela Quintana (04:28):
So if you want key information about our different programs, you can go into our website at UTS, and you can go into the handbook where you can find the course structure, where you can find the admission requirements, which we're going to touch on. You can see how the different options are, if you want to enroll part-time, if you want to enroll full-time, if you want to start in spring, or if you want to start in autumn.
Gabriela Quintana (05:00):
So, what do you need to be admitted into our programs? If you want to be admitted in a graduate certificate in planning, basically what you need is a bachelor's degree, and if you don't have a bachelor's degree, you can have relevant work experience. Then, if you want to go further and enter into the master of planning, or even start directly the joint degree in property development and planning, you would need to have a bachelor's degree in one of the related disciplines to planning. Those disciplines range from architecture, urban design, geography, economics, and law. If you don't have this, you also need to have relevant work experience to be able to be accepted.
Gabriela Quintana (05:55):
Also, you can progress in our masters. So if you start by doing the graduate certificate in planning, or even the graduate diploma or master in property development, then we can validate that. We can recognize that prior learning from that graduate certificate and have you registered into the master program. But you have to have a credit average to be able to join from the graduate certificate or the graduate diploma into the master.
Gabriela Quintana (06:26):
So our degree is accredited by the Planning Institute of Australia. What does that mean and why is it important to be an accredited degree? With this, when you graduate as a planner from the master of planning at UTS, you're able to enroll into the Planning Institute of Australia as a planner. That will give you more opportunities to work in different areas, not just in local government, which is our usual perspective of what a planner does, but it opens the doors to work at federal government, at state government, regardless if it's in the Department of Planning and Environment and Industry, or if it's in the Department of Housing, or in other state entity, and it also opens the door for you to be able to work as a planner in the private industry with any of the planning consultants that we have here in Sydney, so, and that opens that career path.
Gabriela Quintana (07:34):
Through the Planning Institute of Australia, you also can join different networks as the Young Planners Network or Women in New South Wales Network. I mean, there are a lot of advantages of being accredited and being able to register in this institution, and as I was discussing before, about the future career paths, as a planner, graduating from UTS, you can go both into the private sector or into government.
Gabriela Quintana (08:05):
So how is our course structured and what is the experience of studying the master of planning at UTS, or any of the planning degrees? So first of all, our program is taught in blocks. What does that mean? We don't teach weekly sessions. What we do is gather up all that knowledge into what is usually two blocks of two full days. For example, one subject, that is urban design, is taught Monday and Tuesday, 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM, at the end of April, and then at the end of May, you have once again Monday and Tuesday, 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM.
Gabriela Quintana (08:55):
There are other subjects that are a little bit more flexible if you work full-time. For example, we have Group Project A, that is the master of planning subject, that is taught Thursday evenings, 6:00 to 9:00, then all Friday, 9:00 to 6:00, and then all Saturday 9:00 to 6:00, which means that you only have to take one day off from work to be able to participate in this experience, and we have two of those blocks for this subject.
Gabriela Quintana (09:25):
So, what is the advantage of that? The advantage of that is that you can space out the different assignments that you have to submit. It also means that you don't have to take leave weekly to be able to come to the teaching blocks. It allows you to just take two study days and come to your teaching block, and now that we are in this current situation, definitely, most of our subjects are taught remotely in these blocks, which means that you can watch some of the recorded lectures at your own pace, and then have a meeting with the rest of the class to discuss some topics that may be highlighted by the lecture.
Gabriela Quintana (10:15):
Another important aspect of our course is that we share subjects with other masters and especially with property development. What is the advantage of that? It gives us that multidisciplinary background that we need to have in planning. When we work in the real world, after graduating, we work in multidisciplinary teams. We work with valuers. We work with lawyers. We work with architects, et cetera. We work with a very large diversity of people, and sharing subjects with other masters allows us to give you the skills that you need to work in this multidisciplinary environment.
Gabriela Quintana (11:01):
Another great advantage of this course is all the industry connections that you can make throughout your studies, not just with the guest lecturers and with the guest speakers that we bring from industry, but also with your own classmates. Keep in mind that a lot of the people that study the master work full-time here in Sydney and in other places in Australia. So those are great connections that you can make for your future career.
Gabriela Quintana (11:37):
So, a couple of news that we have now is that the graduate certificate in planning is one of the degrees that was identified as the higher vocation certificate which is the funding that is giving the government now for local students. So that means that if you want to enroll in the graduate certificate, you would only pay $2,500 instead of paying the 12,000 that it would cost.
Gabriela Quintana (12:12):
This is because this grad certificate is taught entirely online this spring session, and you have to take it full-time. So you need to take the four subjects of the graduate certificate in this next session. So you should apply for it if you would like to access this government funding. We still need to assess it. It doesn't guarantee the access to the degree. However, we want you to know that this funding is there.
Gabriela Quintana (12:47):
Also, for the master of planning, we have CSP places, which are the Commonwealth Supported Places. So, what is that? That is like HECS, but instead for undergrad, those are for postgrad. So, that is about it. These are a couple of sites where you can find a little bit more information about all the postgraduate courses that are taught in the School of Built Environment, as well as the direct link for the online applications.
Gabriela Quintana (13:25):
So I see that there are no questions, but if you want to ask anything that I haven't mentioned, please let me know. So I received a couple of questions from your enrollments. One of the questions was about if you needed a portfolio to be admitted in the planning program. So for planning, you don't need to have a design portfolio.
Gabriela Quintana (13:55):
The other question that was made in the enrollments was if you could do the graduate certificate online, and if you could do it partly in the evenings. So with a graduate certificate, now we do have it online, at least for the next spring session, and even with that, you would need to attend some sessions that are scheduled throughout the day. It's not necessarily not all the subjects have these, but some of the subjects will require for you to attend some sessions at the scheduled times of the blocks.
Gabriela Quintana (14:39):
If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask them now in the Q&A box. So, we have one question, if the grad certificate qualify you to work as a planner. You could definitely find work as a planner in industry. You wouldn't be able to register in the Planning Institute of Australia because that registration only comes with the master degree, which is the accredited degree. The subjects that you take in the graduate certificate are part of the master, so definitely, these subjects are also recognized, but you have to do the whole master to be able to register there. But definitely, with a graduate certificate, you can find work as a planner in the industry.
Luke Chess (15:55):
Okay. It's Luke Chess here, the marketing manager for the faculty. Thank you very much, Gabriela, for your time. It does look like we've exhausted all of the questions, or question, for today's session. If there are any further questions, as Gabriela said, you can contact the faculty, and our email address is firstname.lastname@example.org. That's email@example.com. We're always very happy to answer your questions, to help you to navigate our sometimes friendly, sometimes less friendly website, and to assist in any way we can. I do see there's one more question there, Gabriela.
Gabriela Quintana (16:44):
Yes. So the timetable, you can find it ... Well, there is a timetable address. The easiest way is to Google UTS timetable. In the links that I sent, that you have the handbook of the graduate certificate, the handbook of the master of planning, and the handbook of the master on property development and planning, then you have a look at the subjects that you would enroll and you can see there, year one spring session, if you're full-time or part-time. You type the subject code into the timetable planner that you're going to find in Google. Again, if you type UTS timetable, you put the codes there, and there you're going to find the different subjects. The first subjects start the week of the 27th of July.
Gabriela Quintana (17:41):
If you are a full-time student, you would be taking, in any of those degrees, one subject that is property development process. That subject starts that Thursday. If I'm not mistaken, it would be the 30th of July. So it would be Thursday, the 30th of July, in the evening, 6:00 to 9:00, then all the 31st of July, and then all the 1st of August. That would be the Friday and the Saturday. That would be the first subject that you will take. Then the others, the dates, and the second block of this one vary throughout the rest of the semester. But in that timetabling website, you're going to be able to find it.
Gabriela Quintana (18:28):
Well, as Luke was saying, you can always contact DAB Communications through the email that he sent, and I think with this, we could end this webinar.
Luke Chess (18:43):
Yes, indeed. I agree, Gabriela. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time and for the information. Thank you very much to the people who've attended, and we do very much hope that you'll continue to be interested in UTS, and we look forward to you studying with us.
Gabriela Quintana (18:59):
Yes, please don't hesitate to contact us. We're here to help you. Thank you.
Whether you’re an aspiring project manager or an experienced operator seeking a competitive advantage, the UTS Project Management program is designed for you. The immersive learning environment and unmatched course content will equip you with the underlying knowledge and practical experience to drive project delivery across all industry sectors – from construction to information technology and beyond.
Recorded live on Tuesday 2 June 2020, this information webinar is presented by Professor Catherine Killen, covering the Master of Project Management, Graduate Certificate in Project Management and Master of Property Development and Project Management.
Catherine Killen (00:01):
Okay. Well, I will get started now. My name is Catherine Killen. I'm the head of school of the School of Built Environment at UTS. And you're here, I'm hoping, because you want to hear about post-graduate project management courses at UTS. So we'll be talking about those courses in this webinar. The courses included in this webinar are the Master of Project Management, the Graduate Certificate in Project Management, and the Master of Property Development and Project Management. I've got a short welcome video which actually features me, so ...
Catherine Killen (00:44):
Hi. I'm Catherine Killen. I'm the head of school of the UTS School of Built Environment. Welcome to UTS. A degree from the UTS School of Built Environment will enable you to have a rewarding career and make a positive impact on society. Our courses prepare you for careers in planning, property development, property investment, project management and construction. Our courses are internationally accredited. They're taught by experts with experience and industry connections. We are here to answer your questions about studying at UTS and we hope to see you here.
Catherine Killen (01:24):
Before we get started on the rest of the program, I want to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land that UTS sits on. I'd like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation upon whose ancestral lands our City campus now stands. I would also like to pay respect to the Elders both past and present, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians of knowledge for this land.
Catherine Killen (01:53):
So you're here for the webinar of the Master of Project Management, Graduate Certificate in Project Management, and the Master of Property Development and Project Management. So those courses are our Project Management post-graduate courses. You may have heard about them through a number of different channels. And you may come from many different backgrounds. One of the things that I think needs to be clarified straight up is that we are the School of Built Environment. We have a lot of expertise in Built Environment topics. But our Project Management Masters and Graduate Certificate programs are multi-disciplinary. And we basically are the post-graduate Project Management program for UTS.
Catherine Killen (02:46):
So our students do come from, say, about 1/3 of them come from disciplines related to the Built Environment like architecture and construction property development. But we also have many students from other disciplines such as health, engineering, IT, business. We have students that are in the arts or in nonprofits. And it's a very diverse and interesting group of people. So you'll hear more about our courses, and I'll be here to answer your questions. But one of the things that makes our Project Management post-graduate program, I think, really special is that we bring together people from so many different disciplines, and Project Management practices are something that can be shared across disciplines. It's a field where you can shift into different disciplines but also where people do have a disciplinary strength often in their career. So we can talk about those sort of things and happy to answer questions as we go.
Catherine Killen (03:52):
So you've obviously come to this webinar because you're thinking about UTS. I would like to just say a few things about UTS that I feel are really important, and those have to do with the reputation, the facilities, and I think what's particularly important is the people. So if you haven't noticed, UTS is a pretty vibrant place. The campus is a city campus. It's quite exciting. But it's also a young university that's growing in many ways. Its reputation has been increasing, and we're the first in Australia for the young universities in the numerous international studies, 11th in the world among young universities. And those are universities under 50 years. So we've come a long way, and it's an exciting place to be.
Catherine Killen (04:52):
One of UTS's strengths is strong industry connectedness, and this is exemplified particularly in the Project Management program and the other programs in Built Environment. We have high graduate employability. People graduate from our courses really ready to be launched into careers, and that is probably partly due to our strong industry connection but also enhances our industry connection. So that's something we value highly. The city campus is an exciting place with a lot of new buildings. We are, as you know, right now not in those buildings as often, but we're starting to transition something back to campus, and that's something that is a good aspect of UTS, and being right near the main transport hub of the city just makes it really easy to get in and out.
Catherine Killen (05:54):
I think the people at UTS are the other thing that I think is particularly special. We have experienced educators who are committed to education, have industry experience. I didn't list the students on my slide here as well, but the students are the most important people that make our classes what they are is dynamic and interesting and interactive. I must say even though our lecturers bring a lot, so do our students. And I'll talk more about that later. We bring industry guests into our classes and other things to support the way that we can teach.
Catherine Killen (06:36):
Do remember that if you have questions, you can put them in on the Q&A part of the webinar chat line, chat box. Hopefully you can see that. I'm checking here and I don't see anything to answer at the moment. But now I'm going to get into what you're really here about is what are the options for post-graduate study in Project Management at UTS. So first I'll talk about the Graduate Certificate and the Master of Project Management, and then I will talk about the Master of Property Development and Project Management which is a dual discipline Master's.
Catherine Killen (07:21):
All of these courses are accredited by industry. And industry accreditation is a nice stamp of approval to have. And what it does is it's an ongoing evaluation and benchmarking with trends within the industry that make sure that we have high standards, that we're up to date and that we're industry relevant. Our main accrediting bodies for the Master of Project Management are the Project Management Institute Global Accreditation Center and the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors. We also have a number of sponsored prizes and scholarships. We have some internship opportunities. And we have great careers that come from an education in Project Management. Good salaries, rewarding careers in a wide variety of industries.
Catherine Killen (08:22):
To look at who's teaching the classes, we have four of the full-time staff and many sessionals who are part-time staff that come from industry that are pulling together to really steer the Project Management program. There's just a brief outline here about the four main full-time staff that are dedicated to the Project Management program. Professor Shankar Sankaran is someone that comes from a background in engineering, telecommunications and health and brings a lot of his passion to talk about systems thinking and governance and working with communities as well. So he's quite passionate about working with disadvantaged and developing communities among other things.
Catherine Killen (09:18):
There's myself, so I'm Professor Catherine Killen. I'm teaching subjects on communication, human resources and stakeholders, and on project innovation and entrepreneurship. So my background comes from product development and manufacturing in the computer industry, bringing yet another perspective. And I'm also doing research in a number of areas including decision-making and innovation.
Catherine Killen (09:49):
Dr. Yongjian Ke is working, has his experience with project private public partnerships and relational contracting that's in the construction industry. And his specialties are the risk and procurement quality management, advanced risk management. And we also have Dr. Leila Naeni who's also got experience in the construction and engineering environments, teaching time and cost scheduling. She's our analytical person with complexity modeling and analysis and earned value management expertise. That's just a little bit of a brief overview of some of the people that bring their expertise and certainly their passion for education to the classes that we teach.
Catherine Killen (10:44):
So with the Graduate Certificate of Project Management and the Master of Project Management, the Graduate Certificate is a subset of the Master's. So the students that come into the Graduate Certificate and first part of the Master's are the same foundation component, and the Master's students have the further subjects. So the structure here explains how the Graduate Certificate is four subjects. So those are four six-credit point subjects for a total of 24 credit points, which is the standard for a Graduate Certificate. If you're doing that full time, that can be done in half a year, so that's a six-month full-time course of study. A lot of our students do that part time because if you're currently working, you can do this, fit it within your work and then you do it at half of the pace. The Masters then is basically three times as long. It's 12 subjects total. The first four are the Graduate Certificate subjects, and they have mostly electives except for one other core subject. So to do the Master's full time is 1 1/2 years, part time is three years.
Catherine Killen (12:13):
One thing that people often like to know is how do I get in? What is required to gain entry to the Graduate Certificate or the Master course? For the Graduate Certificate or either one of them, we require a Bachelor's degree and one year of industry experience. We're not expecting that people have already been a project manager. But we do require that people can demonstrate they appreciate a commercial setting and the types of projects that happen in industry, and you're asked to explain that in a personal statement. This one year of work experience is actually a really important part of our course. Most of our students would probably have between three and five years of experience but some have 10, 15 or more years of experience, and some have been project managers for many years. The wealth of knowledge that comes from that experience and the perspective enables the learning to be at a much deeper and more practical level. So we require that in all of our post-graduate project management students.
Catherine Killen (13:28):
For the Graduate Certificate, it's also possible to have experience but not a Bachelor's degree. So there's an alternate method for entry that can be assessed on an individual basis which may include some types of other training but usually quite a lot of experience and good exposure to projects. So there's a way to get into the Graduate Certificate, an alternate path. Once the Graduate Certificate is completed, that can give you entry into the Master of Project Management as long as the Graduate Certificate has a credit average.
Catherine Killen (14:09):
You may notice if you're looking at applying that we do ask for the normal things that people get asked when they're applying, like the transcripts of previous studies. But we also do ask for your CV and a personal statement. And those two documents help us evaluate what your perspective and your experience is. And there is no set discipline that prepares you for this course. As I said, we have people that have been in the arts or in theater as well as in many other types of disciplines like engineering or IT, health. The thing about projects is that they're conducted right throughout the working world, and so that's a very open area for a wide variety of applicants.
Catherine Killen (15:10):
The other thing that we have which is actually a new thing for our Master of Project Management is that there are some Commonwealth-supported places. So this Commonwealth-supported places option is available for local students, and when you apply you may be considered for those places. There's a limited number but that basically gives you some extra flexibility and lower costs for your course.
Catherine Killen (15:39):
So if you want to get into the nitty gritty about what's involved, our handbook online is an excellent source of information. So if you go to online and you type in UTS handbook and any of the courses that you're interested in, you can look at the exact subjects, descriptions of the subjects, and get quite a lot of detail. So here's just a quick overview to show you that, if you're doing a Graduate Certificate, you do four core subjects. So those first four core subjects on the left are the basic foundations for a Graduate Certificate and they're also the first four subjects done in the Master.
Catherine Killen (16:27):
If you are progressing to the Master, if either you've enrolled straight into the Master's or you finished the Graduate Certificate and then apply for Master's, you will do eight more subjects, one of which is the other core subject and then, of the elective subjects, you can choose seven of those. Or you can choose to do a sub major. You can do three of those and a sub major. So that's one of the options is to do a disciplinary specialty within your Project Management Master's program.
Catherine Killen (17:14):
Someone's just asking a question here about within the Master's of Property Development and Project Management course, which I'm going to explain in a moment, doesn't have any ability to take the specialty in construction that's being asked about. But the Master of Project Management does have a major in construction. So I'll explain that in a moment. And I see another question here that I can answer next. So I'll get back to that.
Catherine Killen (17:50):
In the Master of Project Management there is the seven different types of specialties, and one of them is construction, so that was what one participant just asked about. So the sub majors, business, information technology, health, engineering, construction, property development and local government management, each have a range of subjects that you choose four of, and you do those four subjects for a sub major, a sub specialty. So within the Project Management Master you can do a specialty in construction.
Catherine Killen (18:26):
When I explain the Master of Property Development and Project Management, you'll see that there's not space in there because that's already a double major. There's not space to have this type of sub specialty area. So if you are interested in a specialty in construction, you can do the Master of Project Management with construction, or you can start straightaway with the Graduate Certificate in construction management which we have as well. So that's not the topic of this webinar but I believe we have one coming up on that. So that one's answered.
Catherine Killen (19:03):
We have a question here about what is the pros and cons of doing a PMP Certification, which is a PMI, Project Management International Certification instead of a Master of Project Management. And is there a greater benefit of doing the Master's? These are quite different type of qualifications. The PMP Certification is a professional body certification for the standards and the practices that are defined by PMI that is focused on tools and methods, and also requires you to go through some stages where you will show experience and show how you've applied the project. If you do a Master's, of course that does give you some of the credit towards the path to get a PMP. But it's actually quite a different thing.
Catherine Killen (20:00):
The Project Management at the post-graduate level is a more ... we are looking at creating reflective practitioners who are able to evaluate a number of different approaches and standards, who we might say are agnostic to a particular philosophy by one of these ... There's different types of project management that are prescribed and done, like PRINCE2 or PMI or other standards. A Master of Project Management is a way to really understand the whole breadth of the way that project management is done and to also be able to learn a lot of the skills involved with negotiation and management and strategic thinking that sits around the project space. So we're looking at really the higher level of thinking and learning. Some people do both qualifications because they are quite different, they complement each other. I can't tell you which is the greater benefit because it depends on the person. Some employers will very much want a certain qualification, either the Graduate Certificate, the Master, or one of the PMP type of qualifications. So that's something that it would be good also perhaps to talk to people who have done the course before.
Catherine Killen (21:33):
Does a Graduate Certificate give you enough knowledge to gain work in project management if you have no prior experience? We're finding yes, that project management is an in-demand field. And depending on your disciplinary background combined with your Graduate Certificate is often a good entryway to get into a project management role. The first role is probably, it depends on the size, might not be a project manager, might be assistant project manager or one of the parts of the team. If it's a big construction project you're not going to run in and be the project manager straightaway. But certainly yes, the knowledge is designed to get people ready to start working and obviously the learning continues in the career. But the way that we run our courses is also designed to help people gain experience through the experiences relayed by lectures and experiences that you gain yourself in actually doing project-related tasks in an intensive environment in the class the way we run that. So I hope that answers the question but send more in if you need more answered.
Catherine Killen (22:49):
And that actually leads me into the next slide which talks about how we do run our classes. For the post-graduate project management, the majority of subjects are run in block workshop mode. This is quite a unique way to teach and it's something that we feel, and many people have responded to us really helps them get very deeply into the situation and to work on projects in a way that gives them a bit of project experience. An intensive block means that the face-to-face time in normal sessions, when we're not online, is four days, full days where we're working together in the room and getting a lot of work done during that time. But of course a six-credit point university degree is not just done in four days. There's work to be done beforehand and that is the pre-class workshop assignment as well as readings and materials, so that when people do come to the class we're really primed and ready to make the most of those four days. And afterwards there is an individual assignment that builds on what we've done in those four days.
Catherine Killen (24:13):
So the four days, however, are a really special environment that enable us to do things. And it varies very much in each subject exactly what and how we do it. But for example in some subjects you may be delivering quite a major project report by the end, something that may seem not possible at the beginning, but the groups really pull together and it's quite a rewarding experience to pitch in, learn a lot and see what you can produce and how you can work with people because it is very interesting. Even as we're going online, we're incorporating a lot of interactivity and some of us are teaching still in fairly intensive modes and other subjects have been spread out a bit more in order to manage the type of learning best. And that's going really amazingly well teaching online this last term. So that's one thing that people need to think about in this course is that most of our subjects will be doing those four full days, and they are four days in a row. It enables you to leave work and other things behind and pitch in. So if there are any other questions that come up, we'll answer them as we go.
Catherine Killen (25:38):
But the Master of Property Development and Project Management is the other thing I want to talk about. And that is a dual discipline Master's. It's useful for people in either side, property or project management, if they want to upgrade qualification and expertise or enter those other industries. And a lot of people come in trying to enter either industry but want to bridge those areas. That's got a mixture of project management as well as that property development balancing private and public interest in urban management and assessing development feasibility.
Catherine Killen (26:20):
So the way that the Master of Property Development and Project Management is structured is that it is a two-year full-time course or four years part time. So it's 96 credit points. That means we have 16 subjects and it's half in Property Development and half in Project Management. So the Property Development subjects are defined and there aren't electives there because it's a shorter degree than the Master of Property Development by itself. The Master of Property Development if done alone allows for electives, but if it's done in combined with the Project Management Master's, then there aren't electives. Within the Project Management side, the four core Project Management subjects are included and four of the advanced Project Management electives are included. So those are electives but they're within the Project Management discipline. So as someone asked earlier, can they do this double degree with a specialty in something else like construction. There's just not space. That would be like a triple Master's. So there's other ways to get that outcome if that's a specialty that you want.
Catherine Killen (27:50):
So similar to Project Management, the double degree requires work experience, a personal statement and CV. It requires a similar level of background. But the Bachelor's degree that's needed for entry into Property Development and Project Management is restricted to these disciplines that we call cognate disciplines. But their main ones are listed here, architecture, building, engineering, management, commerce, law, economics and econometrics. So for Property Development, because there's a bit more analysis and finance-type work in there, the Bachelor's degree is meant to be in one of those disciplines. If you're not sure, ask us because we can evaluate and see if your experience and/or degree match up enough to qualify you. Our interest is in ensuring that people that come into the degree are prepared to succeed in the degree. And we're happy to answer questions.
Catherine Killen (29:02):
So that's the end of the main things that I want to cover on my slides. There's always a lot of other questions that come up. At the moment, I don't see anything waiting in the Q&A area. But what I put up here is our email address. If you have questions, you can contact the course director or myself directly on email if you have academic questions. If your questions are more about enrollment and administrative-type matters, there's the DAB dot communication at UTS dot edu dot au there. So now is your chance to type away if there's something else you want to know. Let me put myself on here. I'm putting myself on there so you can see that I'm here for you and I'm ready to answer questions. If you want to type any in, we'll be happy to try to answer them now. Or feel free to contact us on our other contact options later on. I'll give you a few minutes and see if any other questions come in. And Amanda and Luke, if you can think of anything that we might want to mention here, I can do that as well.
Luke Chess (30:34):
Yes, Catherine, a question's come through on the chat. Can I just remind people ideally if questions are asked on the Q&A, we spot them more quickly. But it's just asking about whether there are any external assignments with the courses. I assume that would be live assignments with actual organizations.
Catherine Killen (30:58):
So that asking about external assignments, so maybe that means assignments done in industry. We don't usually use that kind of terminology, but I'm just thinking perhaps that person can clarify a bit more. We certainly do have-
Luke Chess (31:22):
It looks like we're talking about, for example, in Project Management would there be the opportunity to work on live projects, actual projects.
Catherine Killen (31:31):
Right. Okay, well we do have a couple of subjects that have ... well, we have different ways of doing actual projects. We have some subjects where a client, we might call them, an industry comes in and poses a problem that people solve in the classroom. And then at the end of the session, that client will come back and we will present to them what has been achieved. We also have had subjects where groups can go out to an organization and work with them. So there are a number of ways that we do work with real projects, keeping in mind that there obviously have to be smaller portions of a project in order to fit within the subject material.
Catherine Killen (32:23):
Now let me see, there's some questions here about someone has a Graduate Certificate in Project Management from another university. Can this knowledge be accredited were you to transfer? It's very likely that other post-graduate studies can be used for advanced standing. Undergraduate studies are not generally used. So it depends on what your qualification is. But if you've done a Graduate Certificate in Project Management, there's a good chance that that will be credited. For anyone who does want advanced standing, it's assessed on a personal basis of what that is. But in general, post-graduate study, a Graduate Certificate type of foundation would prepare you for the Master's.
Catherine Killen (33:16):
There's a question about confirm whether working in architecture meets the relevant work experience. Certainly architecture would be a very relevant work experience because there's a lot of projects going on. And what we're looking for in relevant work experience is somewhere where you can get a perspective of at least some components of the project cycles, and you can appreciate how project management is going to apply in the real world. Project management is a very ... architecture is a strong one. But I also had a student once ask me, this person had actually run their own business like an entrepreneur, had run their own business for a few years and also had a few other types of jobs. But if you run your own business you're managing finances, you're managing invoices and orders and all sorts of things that give you plenty of perspective to appreciate projects in the real world.
Catherine Killen (34:29):
Is a live project in Master's or Graduate Certificate as well? That's a good question. When we say live project, working in the bigger live projects is not part of the Graduate Certificate. A Graduate Certificate has assignments which are based on portions of real projects, but because we're covering a lot of foundation in the Graduate Certificate, there's not a chance for a bigger immersive type of live project option.
Catherine Killen (35:15):
So I've already graduated from architecture. Do I need another year of work experience? We do need a year of work experience before applying for the post-graduate Project Management, whether it's combined or not. So we do need that year of work experience. If you graduated from architecture but you haven't yet built up some work experience, then that's probably a good opportunity to do that and consider then post-graduate study with Project Management as part of the planning for the future. Enrollment deadline for spring. I think it's slightly different if you're domestic or local. Luke or Amanda, do you have that date detail?
Luke Chess (36:14):
I'm sorry, Cathy. I've been trying to trace that down for you and they have moved a little bit as a result of both the new government funding and the impact of COVID. So we can certainly get back to the person who's asked the question on that. But we don't have the information to hand of the exact date.
Catherine Killen (36:40):
Right. Okay. And I'm not positive at the moment either. I would say it would be a couple weeks or more, but if you let us know, make sure your details are in, we can get back to you on that one. Okay, so at the moment I think I've addressed the questions that are here. So are there other questions that people have about what they're interested in or how it's going to be? I noticed that the question about work experience says another year of work experience, but I guess if you've already got work experience before doing architecture or something, that may apply. But what we're not looking at is summer jobs and things like that, that might not be in the industry, might add up to a year of work experience but we wouldn't count that as relevant.
Catherine Killen (37:50):
But some people have worked in other type of work for some time in between degrees. So it's a matter of we will evaluate when people apply, and that's what the personal statement and CV helps us understand. And as I said before, the important thing is that we want to make sure that that we have a wealth of experience and an ability to move to a deeper level by having that background. And that makes our classes really quite rewarding. And sharing of learning between people is probably what I love the most about it, is there's always some new perspective and something new to learn. And that I think is also what people in the class appreciate as well. Looking to see if there's any more questions coming up. A question for people that are possibly listening is are any of you also attending other webinars or interested in other disciplines? We don't have answers there. That's all right. So nothing else visible on the chat, Luke and Amanda?
Luke Chess (39:23):
No, it would seem not, Catherine. So thank you very much, first of all, for your time. There is one more question that's just popped up there, so I'll allow you to answer that. But I'll just say thank you from us for your time. And after we've answered this question, I guess we can call it an evening and thank you to everybody's who's attended.
Catherine Killen (39:45):
Well, thank you for the early thanks, Luke. And if questions come up, up till 6:30, we'll keep answering them. But otherwise it is great to have some people here interested and wish I could be there in person, but we're not. Someone's asking about looking into the Master's of Construction Management course. Does this have a Spring 2020 option? We have a Graduate Certificate of Construction Management and a Graduate Diploma of Construction Management. And we do have a Spring 2020 option. So the Graduate Certificate of Construction Management this spring as well is part of the higher education support scheme, the government stimulus. So you can get more information about that as well. And it does have a Spring 2020 intake. At the moment we don't have, but we are considering expanding our Construction Management into a Master's, but at the moment some of those students will choose to do a Master's in another discipline and use some advanced standing, for example, to move that into a Master of Project Management or something else.
Catherine Killen (40:56):
Someone else is also asking when I say four consecutive days, are we talking four full days, weekdays or weekends? Our four full days of those block classes are usually Monday through Thursday. We've started a couple of our classes also are available on weekends during the summer and winter sessions. But our normal pattern in the autumn and spring, so our main timetable is the four days are Monday through Thursday. But we are making some of those electives available on weekends. So that would be four days, two days, Saturday, Sunday, and then a few weeks later another Saturday, Sunday. So there also are a few subjects that do run as we call it a block mode, but it's actually spread six times over the term and an evening. So we do have two subjects that run that way. Any other questions from anyone?
Catherine Killen (42:07):
The block mode situation is something that a lot of people have found out for the first time when they attend one of these sessions because it is quite unique. I think a very standard way for post-graduate education is to come once a week in the evening, say after work if you're working, and do a subject over a 12-week setting. And what we found is that that's a bit ... it suits some people very well, but for a lot of people that means that they've still got work on their brain, they're rushing in, they're tired, and then they have to keep on switching in and out of these modes. So for our students, it works for them well to be able to put work aside and really dedicate that time to that learning. And that's why we started that really intense mode. And it's been quite successful but we are offering a few different types of patterns depending on the subject.
Luke Chess (43:06):
Catherine, I do actually have the information now on the spring enrollment deadline as well. Look, the absolute latest that domestic students can enroll for spring courses at UTS in our faculty for the upcoming semester is the 12th of July.
Catherine Killen (43:30):
That's the application date?
Luke Chess (43:31):
That's the application date, yes, sorry. That's the application date. That application date does not give us a lot of time to assess applications. So if you feel that you've got anything that might require particular attention, we'd encourage you to apply earlier than that date. But yes, that's the final application date, latest information.
Catherine Killen (43:57):
All right, okay. Thank you for digging that up, Luke. I knew that they had extended it a bit, so that's good to know. So that final last absolute date is the 12th of July. There won't be much time after that. Okay. So I think that it's been good to have the interest and thank you for coming around to our webinar tonight. And you have the contact details if there's any further questions. I will say goodbye. Thank you again for coming along. And thanks, Luke and Amanda, for helping out.
Many analysts expect investment opportunities to emerge in the post-quarantine environment of 2021 and beyond. Our postgraduate property development qualifications will prepare you to grow your career in this new future.
Recorded live on Tuesday 26 June 2020, this information webinar is presented by course coordinator, Paul Van der Kallen, covering the Master of Property Development, Graduate Diploma of Property Development, and Graduate Certificate of Property Development.
Catherine Killen (00:02):
I'm Catherine Killen and I'm the head of school of the UTS School of Built Environment. Welcome to UTS. A degree from the UTS School of Built Environment will enable you to have a rewarding career and make a positive impact on society. Our courses prepare you for careers in planning, property development, property, investment, project management and construction. Our courses are internationally accredited. They're taught by experts with experience and industry connections. We are here to answer your questions about studying at UTS, and we hope to see you here.
Paul Van der Kallen (00:41):
Hi everybody it's Paul Van der Kallen doing the postgraduate Q&A tonight. I would just like to commence our webinar with an acknowledgement to country. I'd like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation, upon whose ancestral lands our city campus now stands. I would also like to pay respect to the elders both past and present, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians of knowledge for this land. We're here tonight looking at the master of property development course, which is the course most people know the property development suite of courses for. However, we also have a graduate diploma in property development, and a graduate certificate in property development. Now these three courses are basically embedded within each other. The graduate certificate is in effect the first four subjects of the graduate diploma, which is in effect the first eight subjects of the master of property development.
Paul Van der Kallen (01:44):
There's basically three entry points into this suite of courses. To some degree, it really doesn't matter that much as to which course you initially enroll in. If you enroll directly in the master of property development, then there's no need to lodge subsequent applications and so forth. However, in terms of course completing there's not a huge difference between starting from the graduate certificate and articulating through to the master of property development, or enrolling directly in the graduate diploma or master of property development. Typically, people who take our courses come from a property to some extent property related background. Now that may be quite a specific property related vocation, such as property valuer or property manager or architect or a town planner. Often we have people coming through who've done law that work in the property area primarily, also a lot of people from government and not-for-profit organizations that deal in housing or development.
Paul Van der Kallen (03:04):
You can see the typical person that comes into our course generally has an undergraduate degree or substantial industry experience in a property related area. What I generally do at this stage of the information session is just to have a look at how the master of property development course seems to work for most of our students. Typically, when we think of the property development industry, it encompasses many areas of professional expertise. We find typically people come into our course they've got a construction background or an architect background, or town planning, or a number of other legal accounting. What they're doing is they're in through their original qualification and role, they've had a large exposure to property and then to the property development industry.
Paul Van der Kallen (04:11):
They see that they get to a point where to move forward they really need to have a better understanding of the other silos of knowledge that all feed into the property development process. You can see this is from an employer who has employed a number of our students that are graduates at UTS, and this is their sort of HR map if you like. You can see that they look at where they're recruiting their staff from, we've got design and technical services. You'd be looking at your architects and so forth, the people involved with that. They might come in, in terms of the delivery of projects or the upfront design. We've then got our development people. That would generally be more likely to have a real estatey sort of background. They'd be looking for finding the sites, putting the deals together, negotiating and marketing and so forth.
Paul Van der Kallen (05:15):
Then we've got our construction, which would be the engineering, the contract administrators, construction onsite manager, people managing external contractors and so forth. These people within their own original area of knowledge, they get to a point where they say I've become the construction manager, but really I'd like to be the development manager. I'd like to move a little bit higher up through the hierarchy, and obtain a more senior role in the organization. To do that, they need to actually understand the other silos of knowledge which all feed into the property development process and industry. What our course does is it enables people to get a fairly sound understanding of the additional areas of knowledge that you need to be able to take a top-down view of an organization, and to manage the various silos or professional advice and so forth that feeds into the higher levels of the organization.
Paul Van der Kallen (06:34):
Basically, I think we might just stop there for a second if there's any questions. I do have one here just in relation to whether the course will be available online in the short-term. As you're probably aware this year due to the COVID-19 pretty much all of the university subjects have gone to an online format. It's very likely that that will remain for this year. We suspect that in the long-term there'll be a move towards a more blended approach, with probably more subjects being offered online than have been traditionally. But presently I can't answer that in an absolute fashion, although it is likely for the rest of this year. I think next year it's likely that there's probably going to be quite a few more subjects offered as an online rather than face-to-face.
Paul Van der Kallen (07:29):
I've just got a question about the scheduling and timetabling, and I've got a section on that a little bit later in the presentation. If I could leave it till then, and if you have any following questions, then by all means we'll lead to them after that. There is one question that I will address right now though, is in terms of enrolling full-time or part-time. Basically when you enroll in our courses in the postgraduate area of the build environment, whether you enroll as a part-time student or a full-time student, in effect doesn't really make much difference to your options in terms of how many subjects you do. The key difference that it makes is that once you tick the box on the application form, the enrollment form to say you're part-time, the university systems will track your progress in accordance with a part-time typical progress, which is about four subjects a year.
Paul Van der Kallen (08:27):
Now what happens is if you enrolled part-time and only were doing two subjects a year, you'll get some letters from the university, asking you to talk to the course director about the pace at which you're learning and so forth. If you were full-time and then you decided to switch to part-time, and so the university systems would be tracking you at eight subjects a year. However, you're only doing four, so then you'll get some letters. Sometimes they might even sound a little bit threatening, but basically just wondering what your problem is and so forth. It's really a tracking thing. Once you're enrolled, you can basically enroll in as many subjects as you like, and just about as few subjects as you like.
Paul Van der Kallen (09:12):
There is a timeframe where the university allows you to course complete. For full-time people that would be 18 months for the masters course, and three years for if you were part-time. Nevertheless, we're reasonably flexible in terms of extending our students that are largely adults with demanding jobs and children and partners and all the rest of it. Things come up in your life and sometimes studies got to go in the back burner for a little while. That's very common, and we're very used to dealing with those situations and trying to accommodate the students. In terms of the specific, there's a question about which courses and so forth. I'll just leave that for the moment, but we'll come back to that a bit later. Just to come back to our core structures.
Paul Van der Kallen (10:21):
We have the graduate certificate in property development, the graduate diploma in property development and the master of property development. The courses are basically nested courses, and the graduate certificate is in fact the first four subjects of the masters and also of the graduate diploma. Irrespective of which course you enrolled in, you would take those four subjects in your first semester if you're full-time, or in your first year if you are part-time. You'll notice there's no electives in there they're all core subjects and you need to do all four. Now those subjects are also a prerequisite subjects for a number of other subjects in the course, and hence they're also the first four subjects that we do. Following from the graduate certificate, you could reapply for the graduate diploma or if you were in the masters or the graduate diploma you would just roll on through to the next series of subjects.
Paul Van der Kallen (11:23):
The next two subjects that you would take being the two more core subjects which are involved with the graduate diploma. The graduate diploma is those four subjects plus these two core subjects, sustainable urban development and group project A:urban renewal. Then to complete the graduate diploma, you would also select two elective subjects. Moving on from the graduate diploma, you could again either just apply for entry into the masters or articulated to the masters of property development course, or you may have already enrolled directly in the masters. Your next two core subjects would be property market and risk analysis, and property development finance, and you would do two more electives. The four electives here incorporates the two that you would have done in the graduate diploma, and you would take two more subjects.
Paul Van der Kallen (12:19):
I'm just having a quick look at the questions that are here and I'll come back to those shortly. Looking at our electives, and this is not the totality of all the elective subjects that we have, but in the School of Built Environment we have a postgraduate degrees in property development, property investment, planning, construction and project management. Our elective choices within the school are very broad, and they come from those areas which go across our schools. You may decide that, and this is really going back to that original career path diagram. Different students that come into the course are looking to obtain specialist areas in the gaps that they have within their knowledge fields. If I was a construction person I would be thinking, "Look, I need to know more about the valuation side of things. I need to understand planning. I need to understand finance."
Paul Van der Kallen (13:49):
You'd be looking to grab those bits of knowledge to build within your degree, so that you pick up the fields of knowledge that you feel you need to move ahead often within your organization, or to just generally move your career forward. In terms of how that fits together for people, it's a very individual thing, and hence we have our core structures, core subjects, and then we have quite a range of electives so that we can be as flexible as possible with the students in terms of them obtaining the knowledge that they feel they need to move through their career. The subjects that are offered here, if we look at these, these all come from that's a property development subject, property development. There's a new graduate certificate and graduate diploma in construction management. Those three subjects come from the construction management course.
Paul Van der Kallen (14:58):
This subject design by property development it's offered across a range of courses. This subject global property trends probably not running this year, but essentially that's a subject where students do a two week international tour of three cities, and look at major projects in those cities and then have a boardroom presentation from the key staff that conceived the project and delivered the project. That's been very popular with our students over the last number of years. In the past, it's been to Singapore, Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo and Seoul. There's six cities, the whole subject actually goes for a month, but the tour goes for a month. However, in terms of the course completion requirements, you only need to attend three cities, and that would be over about a period of about two weeks. That's one of the ones people will actually seem to will be very popular.
Paul Van der Kallen (16:06):
You can pack it in if you're at work, you can pack that in with a holiday if you like, and you can also package that with saying, "Look, I'll go to a city for the two weeks and then I'll have two more weeks in wherever it is." Or you can package it around with a bit of a break for yourself at the same time, or do week one and week three and have a week off in the middle, etcetera. It's quite flexible that way. We've got a subject in aged housing, retirement housing and aged care. That's a new it's an evolving area that's in the property market. Real estate economics comes from our master of real estate investment course. These subjects capital markets, financial management, they come from the MBA. Again, you can select your electives from the MBA, those would be credited to you if you subsequently did a MBA.
Paul Van der Kallen (16:58):
Again, hinging on what are these that you're after, these subjects are all from the master of planning degree. Again, by selecting if let's say for example I took four subjects from the master of planning as my electives, on completion of the master of property development I could then, if I wanted, apply for the master of planning degree, and I would be granted those subjects as subject credits, along with probably another four subjects from the master of real estate development. You would in fact have eight subjects out of 12 completed already. You'd get up to two thirds of the course as a subject credit. Similarly, with project management these subjects come from our master of project management course. Again, if project management was a focus that you felt you would like to develop, then you could take some or all of your four electives from the master of project management course.
Paul Van der Kallen (18:08):
On completion of the master of property development, you would be credited the subjects which were in the project management course, and perhaps a few of the property subjects may be taken as electives in the project management course as well. You might get six or so subject credits. This structure of subjects being counted or credited towards a subsequent degree, runs right through our postgraduate field of subjects and knowledge areas at UTS within our faculty. Many people do a subsequent degree once they've completed their first one, and so it goes. All right, so I'll just take a minute to answer a few questions, sorry. I'll just run through those. With the timetabling I'll leave those timetabling questions for the moment. Answer a few of those. We offer some dual degrees.
Paul Van der Kallen (19:34):
I've got a question there from someone concerning is it better to do project management course and the development management course, if your end goal is to become a development manager? It's an interesting dilemma. Project management, so it really depends on where you are at the moment and where you see yourself going to. There's so much knowledge involved with just property development or just planning, that I would generally say if you considered that your goal was to be a property developer, then you would probably be best to continue in or to take the property development course. Maybe take one elective from the project management course, and then see how you feel about the trade-off between the alternative electives that you could have taken in the property development course, versus taking further electives from the project management course.
Paul Van der Kallen (20:43):
These are similarly with town planning for example or investment, quite simply there's so many fields of knowledge that we do need to come back to focus on or think about. Where it is we want to end up? What do we already have? What knowledge do we already have behind us? Do we need to build on that as well, or do we need to learn from new fields of knowledge? Those decisions are something that we can't provide a general answer for. It comes down to the individual circumstances of a person and the opportunities that lay in front of them. In terms of Commonwealth supported places, presently in postgraduate study we don't have Commonwealth funded supported places. I believe there is some talk of that with the federal government at the moment, but I haven't seen anything so far about it.
Paul Van der Kallen (21:57):
There is a fee help arrangement and our student center will be able to advise you on that. But you can have the government loan scheme involved with the fees for the course, but they're not supported places like they might be in an undergraduate degree. I think we'll leave that for the moment and come back to the presentation. Timetabling. What you can see here is our timetable for, well this is for last year, for this year it's very similar, and for next year it will also be quite similar to this. In effect in our postgraduate area, we don't run two teaching sessions a year, we run multiple sessions a year. The design of this is orientated particularly for our part-time students, who quite often have quite demanding jobs and so forth. It's difficult for them to do a lot of subjects at once, and work and to do all the other family things that they're involved in.
Paul Van der Kallen (23:22):
Basically we try to set out the course up so that there are multiple teaching periods per year. In these cases, so for 2018, 2019, 2020, they've been approximately eight week sessions. Now, bear in mind presently we can only enroll in a course from autumn or spring. That's when we can apply and gain entry. Once we've applied and once we have entry into the course, we can then take subjects as they come. My point being is it's not possible to enroll in May. You can't do that. You can only enter a course in autumn or spring, but once you've entered the course, then you're able to take the subjects in whichever period they may be falling into. The idea with this is that if people are studying full-time you do two subjects. This is our graduate certificate, two subjects in eight weeks, and then two subjects in the following eight weeks.
Paul Van der Kallen (24:37):
For our part-time people, we would take one subject there, one subject in May, then we would take one subject in spring and one subject in October. We're only ever doing one subject at a time. Combined with the way these subjects are traditionally delivered, which is in block mode, it's not always 100% the case, but largely the way the subjects are programmed is that it would generally involve possibly a Thursday night, all day Friday and all day Saturday. Then you would have a break for about four weeks, and then you would come back and do a Thursday night, all day Friday, all day Saturday again, and that would be the completion of the face-to-face. In effect, you can do the subjects or by and large you could do these subjects by only needing to take one Friday a month off work. That's been the way the program's been. Doesn't work for all subjects but it's the way the property development program has been structured in general.
Paul Van der Kallen (25:44):
The other thing is that we run all our core subjects twice per annum. You can see property development processes in autumn, it's also in spring. Property transactions autumn and spring and so on. The core subjects, which are those four, additionally those two for the graduate diploma, and additionally those two for the master of property development, they all run twice a year. The other thing that's worked with this program well for people is that let's say work sent me overseas for May, or some event or people would get married or whatever happens, so I can't do a subject in May. I can still do autumn, I can still do one subject in autumn. That'll be over and done with after about eight weeks, and so I can take that period off and still continue to study throughout the year.
Paul Van der Kallen (26:41):
This has worked quite well for people, in that study gets too much or work gets too busy, you need to have a stop, so you can stop for a short period without having to wait for a half a year before you can re-enroll to take the next subject. That is a feature often in courses where the subjects are all a full autumn subject or a full spring subject, that if you need to either do the subject or not do the subject. If you miss autumn then you've got to wait till spring, or if you miss spring you've got to wait till the following autumn. There's quite a bit of flexibility built into the timetable, and that seems to work quite well for our students who work full-time. You will notice so going back our core subjects we run twice per annum, and then we have a whole list of electives.
Paul Van der Kallen (27:36):
When you look at these subjects and this is not all of them, but this is pretty much most of them, they're broken into groups. These three subjects come from the postgraduate construction degrees. These ones are from the property development course. These ones are from planning. These ones are from the MBA, and that's a different faculty that's the business school. Then these ones are from the project management course. They're all the electives, or they're a large number of electives that are available to you within the school. But many of the electives are only offered once per annum. The core subjects are twice the electives largely once per annum. If you were moving through the course, you could say, "Look, I really want to do this construction cost planning subject. Maybe I'll defer that core subject till spring and take the construction planning subject because that would be very useful knowledge for me right now."
Paul Van der Kallen (28:51):
You have that flexibility, and it's a good idea to have a look at the areas of knowledge that you feel that you really need and the more urgently you need them, then have a look at the electives and then design your program for the year around how soon you need various bits of knowledge, and if they'd be useful to you. You could push a core subject back a little bit. We also have teaching periods in July and we have them here you can see them in February. We have some this year which will be in November. The issue with those of course is that you need to be enrolled in the course before you can do them. If you're looking at saying, "Look, I don't really want to start till the end of the year, but there's a subject on in November," then you would still be best to enroll for the spring semester, and simply don't do a subject until November.
Paul Van der Kallen (29:50):
You need to be enrolled in the course is my point to be able to access those subjects which are outside of autumn and spring teaching periods. That's something to consider. Okay I'm just move on from there, so entry requirements. Our course entry requirements for the master of property development, applicants must have one of the following, a UTS recognized bachelor's degree or equivalent. Now we need to have a credit average pass, and it needs to come from what we call a cognate knowledge area. This is an area related to property. Now, specifically, and we don't control this is controlled by the federal government, but a cognate fields are architecture, building, engineering, management commerce, law, economics or econometrics. We need a undergraduate degree with a credit average, or completed the graduate diploma in property development with a credit average, or completed a UTS graduate diploma in construction management with a credit average. They're the entry requirements for the master of property development.
Paul Van der Kallen (31:04):
You can see they involve an underpinning qualification at AQF level seven or eight, which is degrees and graduate diplomas and with a credit average pass. The graduate diploma in property development. This is where most of our students seem to enter the course these days. For entry into the graduate diploma, we simply need an undergraduate degree recognized by the university of technology. The degree can be from any field. We've actually had people who've completed PhDs who were in science. They still had to come in through the graduate diploma entry point, because they're simply the framework, the federal government framework around this says they can't have direct entry into a masters, because it's not a cognate undergraduate or cognate qualification.
Paul Van der Kallen (32:04):
Basically people come in with any undergraduate degree, it doesn't necessarily need to be at a credit average, and further of course any of the graduate certificates in that we offer property and planning, property development, planning, construction management, project management. With a credit average that will get you into the graduate diploma of property development. Finally, we've got the graduate certificate. Now, the graduate certificate again UTS recognized bachelor's degree or equivalent, an advanced diploma in the field of the built environment. However, we also will consider applicants who have industry experience and not necessarily an undergraduate degree or advanced diploma in the field of the built environment. This is also where a number of people come into our programs, and basically that's a merit basis application, CV clearly articulate your work experience and a personal statement.
Paul Van der Kallen (33:06):
You lodge your application with those supporting documents and it's considered and then we come back to you from there. They're the three entry points, the graduate certificate basically work experience or qualification. A graduate diploma needs to be a graduate certificate or any undergraduate degree. The masters very specific undergraduate degree with a credit average pass. I have some weblinks there. I'll just click this one for you. You may have seen this, but I'll click to that, which just takes you to the postgraduate courses offered within our school. You can see we've got masters of project management, property development, the dual degree courses, and then the graduate diplomas and graduate certificates. If you haven't seen this page by clicking on this page, as an example it will take you through what's involved with the course, what the subjects are.
Paul Van der Kallen (34:18):
If you click on a subject, it will give you a snapshot of the subject what's involved in it and so forth. We've got that one. Recently, sorry, it'll come back to that. Excuse me for a second here. UTS now has direct application. In the past, people had to go through UEC to apply, but now there's an online direct application. The marketing team I'm sure will provide you with that weblink where you can simply apply directly online. I think there's no charge involved with that. Previously I think UEC fee was about $100 for an application. This is a free application and you can do it online. I'll come back to any questions people might have, and I'll just have a look at our Q&A. There's a question here, how frequently would you need to come to Sydney? That's going to vary. At the moment you probably don't have to come at all, but hinging on which subjects you're doing, but there's very few subjects which require face-to-face attendance for this year.
Paul Van der Kallen (36:01):
Chances are for this year probably there's a very good chance you wouldn't have to come up to Sydney at all if you were taking subjects in spring this year. Next year I'm not 100% so I do think there'll be quite a few subjects which will be offered as online purely online, but we've had many people in the past. I guess if you're a part-time student taking the course in the traditional delivery mode you would have to come up for one weekend a month. It will be a Thursday night till you'll be here for Friday and Saturday face-to-face classes monthly. However, I don't think that's going to be the case in the future, I think it will be less than that. You need to attend typically there's two blocks for each subject, and the blocks are generally a Friday and Saturday. Four subjects a year, you'd be doing that eight times a year. Completing the course job opportunities. As you probably noticed the property market's in a bit of a pickle at the moment.
Paul Van der Kallen (37:12):
Nevertheless, the under supply of particularly residential property in Sydney and Melbourne at least is really substantial. At the moment we've probably got this COVID has thrown a spanner in the works with the property market, and no one really knows where it's going to end up in the short-term. In the medium to long-term it looks pretty good. In terms of employment opportunities, presently I think if you're not already in the industry then it's probably going to be a bit tough to get into the industry in the immediate future, until the issues surrounding COVID and people working and so forth wash out. I would think the next year or so is going to be pretty slow. Following that it's probably a slow build back up again, but who knows? We don't really know. It has been very good for a very long period of time. But presently it's pretty hard to make a call exactly on where the market will be in 12 months' time.
Paul Van der Kallen (38:33):
I've got a question about... Just to reiterate the point I made earlier, if you enroll at one of our courses, whether you enroll full-time or part-time, you can enroll as many subjects as you like. Typically, a full-time person would take four subjects per half year. We've actually programmed our courses so that there's subjects on offer over the summer, and also in the July period. You can go faster than eight subjects a year if you want to. As long as you're happy with the subjects that are available in those fringe study periods being over the Christmas period or January, December, January and July you're able to take more than eight subjects a year. Again, you could take it's really up to yourself and looking at the timetable to see how many subjects you can do. People wanting to be a property developer running your own property development company, our master of property development course.
Paul Van der Kallen (39:46):
Once you start moving through the course, once you've done a few core subjects, you'll soon realize the bits of knowledge that you need to add to your existing knowledge to be able to run your own property development company. Some of these questions once you start in the course, once you do the first few subjects, you'll start to say oh dear, I need to know more about this or that than I thought, [inaudible 00:40:08] that I need to understand about whatever it is planning or so forth. It depends on your own existing knowledge. But you will find these things start to become clearer, and as students move through the course, they often say, "I didn't realize there was so much to know about planning, so I'm going to take more of those subjects or do a subsequent degree in planning as well, because I really see how important that is to be able to put developments together."
Paul Van der Kallen (40:42):
Develop managers at the moment I think it's just to send a call, but I think that the industry has probably slowed down a fair bit, and I think it's going to stay that way for probably a while. The development market guys on and off. In terms of the demand for property development managers, normally there's quite a long run where the market's quite good. When the market turns down, it can be down for a few years. It's just the nature of property cycles. If we enter the property market at the... If we're entering the market right now, and we're hoping to get a development management role without any experience, that would be probably a pretty tough call. If you're already a construction manager or an engineer, not so. But if you're coming in from no property background at all, it would be pretty tough to land a job as a development manager right now. Down the track, it might be a bit different, you'll be an assistant development manager probably.
Paul Van der Kallen (41:50):
Group projects, yes there is, but they're being done virtually. There's some questions about group projects. Yes, there are group projects, but they're not in all subjects. Many subjects don't have the group projects at all. Yes, there is a feasibility analysis tool, and there's a subject dedicated to development feasibilities, and you'll be looking at that software and basically also using Excel and other tools to do enough feasibility studies. Once you enroll in the course, then you can have a chat to the course director about where you want to go I guess in the course, which subjects you might do. You will find once you start doing the core subjects it'll fill you in, in terms of what you should do. In terms of the other industry questions, a valuation degree, there is an approval with the Australian Property Institute [inaudible 00:43:04] hinging on the range of electives that you've selected, that the master of property development graduates are eligible for certified practicing valuer.
Paul Van der Kallen (43:16):
However, it hinges on the elective subjects that you've taken through the course of the degree. That's something you should have a look at when you're selecting your electives particularly. The fees for the course. I think approximately I'm a little bit out of touch with this, but I think it's approximately three and a half thousand dollars a subject, but certainly the marketing and student center will be able to help you with that. Internships, not really in the postgraduate area, we tend not to have internships. We have employers chasing students. We have quite a bit of that. Where employers are saying, "Do you have anyone with a construction background doing your course and so forth?" We do get direct employer inquiries. However, we don't tend to get internships involved with the postgraduate degrees. They tend to be orientated towards the undergraduate degrees.
Paul Van der Kallen (44:19):
Just the nature of people doing the postgraduate courses tend to already have a bit of a career, and largely they've already got a working some way. That's typically the way it washes out with those internships. Unfortunately I have a class that starts in seven minutes, so I'm going to have to end the webinar here. However, our marketing people will be happy to take any further questions from you, and we'll get back to you. If they're unable to answer them, we'll come back and answer those questions for you probably by mail the next day or so. Thanks very much, and I hope this has helped you in your decision to whether or not you may apply for the property development suite of courses at UTS. Thanks again.
Luke Chess (45:23):
Thanks Paul, there's just one quick question there regarding opting for two masters, if it's possible that you can answer that before you go very briefly, that would be appreciated. Then you've got Luke and Amanda here from marketing who can answer any further questions.
Paul Van der Kallen (45:38):
Fantastic, thanks. We've got a range of dual degrees. There's dual degrees with the property development and real estate investment with planning, property development and master of planning, and property development and project management. The trade-off doing a dual degree is basically when you do a dual degree by and large you're taking the core subjects out of each of those degrees. You're doing 16 subjects instead of 12. If you looked at our program earlier we have eight core subjects and four elective. Basically you're taking the eight core subjects out of each degree. That's very useful. However, the trade-off with that is that you're not doing the electives, so you're getting the dual degree, but you're not necessarily picking up well, it hinges on what you already know and what you feel you need to know.
Paul Van der Kallen (46:34):
Doing a dual degree may not necessarily make you more marketable in the industry. If you want to go in property and you think I'll do a dual degree because I'll look better on paper, well possibly, but I would say probably you're better to take those elective subjects from the property development area, or if you are in project management from the project management area or the planning area if you're in planning. Because the elective subject content is very important if you're in that field. It's a bit of a double-edged sword I guess. One side it's a really good thing because you've got the dual degree or the combined degree I think they call it now. But the other side is that you're trading off by not taking the electives that might be very useful to you soon as you start work. That's the way I see the dual degrees.
Paul Van der Kallen (47:36):
They do change things for international students in terms of visas and [inaudible 00:47:43]. There's a somewhat of an agenda there with the dual degrees that it ties in with subsequent I think it's not permanent residency, but there's another form of residency between student visa and permanent residency, and I think it ties in with that. For international students it's pragmatic to do a dual degree. In terms of accreditations for the dual degrees, again it comes down to the individual professional bodies that accredit out courses. As an example, the Australian Property Institute accredits the master of property development for a number of things, but if you want to be a valuer then you have to have very selective electives. If you did a dual degree you wouldn't have taken those electives and therefore you wouldn't meet their requirements to be accredited or recognized as meeting the valuation educational requirements.
Paul Van der Kallen (48:43):
You would have to subsequently come back and enroll in something else, another degree to pick up those additional subjects you've missed out on, to then say, "Look, I've completed that degree, and then I've also done these other subjects, and now I'm eligible for this CPV." It's a matter of where you're end picture is I guess, as to whether a dual degree is a good idea, or whether it's better to just take a single masters degree. If you do a masters degree, you can always simply carry those forward as subject credits into a subsequent degree, or you can carry many of the subjects into a subsequent degree as subject credits, if those subjects are across both courses.
Paul Van der Kallen (49:26):
The university rule there is 66%, so two thirds of if I did a course with 12 subjects I could credit eight subjects into a subsequent degree. If those subjects were available in both degrees, I could carry eight across and then I could do a second degree by taking four more subjects. That works a little bit differently, hinging on which masters course you're looking at, or which graduate diploma, but it's up to two thirds, so hinges on the subject selections in each course. Luke I think I'm going to have to go now.
Luke Chess (50:06):
Absolutely Paul, thank you. I was expecting a quick answer and you gave us a long one, so thank you very much. Folks, thank you for your time and thank you to Paul for his time outlining the master of property development. If there are any further questions that we're unable to address right now, my colleague Amanda has actually shared the general email address in the chat channel there, it's firstname.lastname@example.org. If you open up the chat channel there you'll see Amanda's post, it's the third last post. We're happy to take questions from there at any time. We're also happy to take further questions now, although Paul is our course content expert, so it's quite likely if you're talking to Amanda and myself, that while we can give you general information, we'll need to get back to you for specific course information. If there are any further questions do ask them now, otherwise enjoy your evening and we'll look forward hopefully to seeing you on the ETPs.
Real estate investment
Advance your career with the finance, investment, management, valuation and analysis knowledge needed to succeed in the global real estate investment sector. Learn to integrate highly sought-after property and finance skillsets, to set and achieve objectives in today’s ever-evolving investment climate.
Lois Towart (00:00):
This is the online presentation for the postgraduate masters of real estate investment. It is one of a suite of qualifications or masters postgraduate qualifications we have here at the School of Built Environment.
Catherine Killen (00:15):
Hi, I'm Catherine Killen. I'm the head of school, of the UTS School of Built Environment. Welcome to UCS. [inaudible 00:00:23] from the UTS school of built environment will enable you to have a rewarding career and make a positive impact on society. Our courses prepare you for careers in planning, property development, property investment, project management and construction. Our courses are internationally accredited. They're taught by experts with experience and industry connections. We're here to answer your questions about studying at UTS, and we hope to see you here.
Lois Towart (00:55):
And acknowledgement of country, I would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation upon whose ancestral lands our city campus now stands. I would also like to pay respects to the elders both past and present, acknowledging them as the traditional custodians of knowledge for this land.
Lois Towart (01:19):
Now, what we're discussing today or going through is our Master of Real Estate Investment, it's, as I said before, it's one of our qualifications in the School of Built Environment of our master's qualifications, and it deals specifically with real estate investment in contrast to a few other masters qualifications that we have. It's a master's, it's not a certificate or a diploma, it's a full masters.
Lois Towart (01:46):
Now it comprises a number of components and for starters the typical course participants doing the master of real estate investment already are working in the property industry. They tend to come from a number of fairly specialized backgrounds. You have valuers who are looking at extending their knowledge of the real estate investment side of property. Valuers are already very good at going out and understanding what makes property work. You have analysts, and that could be research analysts, people doing property research, doing research for publications, but they can also be equity analysts or people doing other forms of analyst type roles around the property industry. You've also then got asset managers, they're people that are looking after portfolios of properties, making strategic decisions. And you've also got property managers who are looking after the actual management of property.
Lois Towart (02:50):
And finally, you've got developers because when you look at it developers are making product or making things that are investments that can then be held in investment vehicles. So from their point of view understanding how real estate investment works from a developer's point of view, if it ties in with what they know as developers. So they're our typical course participants, they're already within the property industry and they're looking at extending their knowledge of this specialized property for specialized component of the industry.
Lois Towart (03:24):
Now, the course structure, it's a 72 credit course and it's made up of 60 credit points of core subjects, which is actually 10 subjects. Now, part of these are through the School of Business and these are these two five ones here, capital markets and financial management. Now, something else to remember too with these, these are available throughout a number of different times of the year. So you're not limited when you can start the qualification. So these are core subjects within the School of Business, so they're readily available and you don't have to worry about timetabling classes because there's often multiple delivery points of these subjects. You've also got a number of subjects which are part of our masters of real estate development, which include our development feasibility, property transactions, strategic asset management, investment property valuation.
Lois Towart (04:25):
Now we've also got our specialized investment property with real estate investment subjects, which [inaudible 00:04:31] investment asset allocation, economics, real estate equities, and our investment property analysis. So we've actually got a number of different components within there. What it does actually do is because it's tied in with the master of property development, it then allows you to start at either the spring session or the autumn session. So you don't have to wait once a year to enter into the course, you can actually start halfway through the year. That's [inaudible 00:04:59] advantage, because the masters or property development subjects, they're also available twice a year. So it could start [inaudible 00:05:07] it actually allows you to get your core subjects well underway without having to worry about, "I've got to do that, then I've got to wait another six months to start the next one." So it does give you plenty of points to start doing your study, so you can progress through at a speed that you would like to progress through.
Lois Towart (05:25):
And then on top of that, we have elective subjects that comprises of two. Now, unlike a more general qualification, we actually require... there's a short list of our elective subjects. Now a number of these are again from the School of Business, they are the alternative investments, financial modeling and analysis and investment management. The remaining ones of these are available through our school of built environment here at UTS. So there's a number of different subjects within there that you can take as electives. Students have a variety of reasons for wanting to do this, and they tend to make up the electives that they think are best in their interests to consider. So sort of said, there's no one way of doing it, students tend to focus on their strengths or focus on the directions they want to go to.
Lois Towart (06:16):
Now that then brings you up... Normally the degree would be, if you were doing it full time, it would be over about 18 months. However, if you want to do it part time and you could do it over a couple of years. The majority of the core subjects within the master of property development and within the masters of real estate investment are generally available in the spring and autumn sessions. So you can't make them up in the sort of non or the additional sessions like doing them in summer school. A couple of these are in summer school, so you can make up more subjects that way in order to speed up your way of getting through the qualification. So you can start looking at the different subjects when they are available. Your core subjects tend to be available mostly in your autumn and winter sessions. It's your other subjects, which tend to be available out of them, which you can then start doing them and that is in between sessions, which then allows you to speed up moving through your qualification.
Lois Towart (07:15):
So when we look at it, how do you get into it, or what do you need to have in order to get into the qualification? Firstly, you got to have one of the following, it is being a masters, it follows on from my previous qualification. As I said, there's an assumed level of knowledge prior to this. So again, you can't sort of have a qualification say in science or arts or something like that, there is an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of property markets. So they have requirements are there that we need to have recognized degree in these disciplines. So firstly, it's got to be a recognized bachelor's degree and that is from a recognized university. Now I know there's all sorts of institutes, beauticians colleges and other places that produce degrees. No, there has to be a recognized bachelor's degree from a recognized university. And a credit level, so it's got to be a credit level of study credit average or above, and it's got to be one of the following disciplines, property or land economics, construction economics, engineering, business, finance and its related fields, management and commerce, et cetera.
Lois Towart (08:32):
And again, at least credit average or a UTS recognized master's degree or equivalent and again, in one of the following disciplines, property or real estate, business, finance, commerce, or economics. So again, it's that assumed level of knowledge. It's not something where you can say, "Well, I know a bit about a few things I should be able to get in and wing my way through it." There is a generally assumed knowledge that you'd know what quite a few things are already, and it builds upon that knowledge, which is why we have these requirements to have these qualifications or your prior learning has got to be in a number of different specialized disciplines. So that's where we look at that. That's what you need to have in order to get into the qualification.
Lois Towart (09:17):
Now, a bit more information available online, I'm just going to click on these. Ta-da. All right, this is our Built Environment, see a postgraduate... This has got all our detail on all our master's qualifications, graduate diploma, et cetera, and our masters of real estate investment here. So this is the link that's going to have detail on all our postgraduate qualifications. So you can see that there's a number of qualifications in there and our master of real estate investment. Now I'm just clicking back... Whoa, no, need to go back there.
Lois Towart (09:59):
And our applications, how you go about applying. This is good information for you to use on your online application. And because things are a little bit remote, there are a few slightly different changes to this. So I'm certain the appropriate people will be able to fill you in on all those details. I'm not a [inaudible 00:10:21] on what the current process is at the moment because it's been fairly fluid and changing a lot. So this then links you to an online application, which then allows you to start to put in your application if you want to start studying now or start studying as soon as possible.
Lois Towart (10:36):
Now I'm just going to scroll back a little bit. There is also what you might see some students do, a dual degree of real estate investment and masters of property development. Now, I think if you'd watched Paul van der Kallen's webinar last week, you'd have noted that he would have mentioned that. So you've got a dual degree, you can do that where you'll do the master of real estate investment. And where it's differs slightly is that there's an additional four core subjects, which are within the masters of property development. So that would then give you a dual degree, which you could then say, "Well, if that's what you'd particularly like..."
Lois Towart (11:14):
And again is one better than the other? It depends upon what you want and what direction your career is going in, whether you wish to do a lot of study now, or whether you wish to do study over a longer period of time. There's a variety of reasons behind or benefits for and detriments behind both of those, doing a large qualification gets it out of the way, but also doing lots of regular study keeps you updated with things. So that's a decision that you need to make yourself. What the dual degree does, it adds another four subjects within our core subjects and they are core subjects within the masters of property development. So you get those added in there. What that then does is takes you to a two year full time degree. There are benefits if you're going for an Australian visa for doing that level of study. So you can see you can do a dual degree, I haven't given too much detail here because Paul did provide information on that earlier.
Lois Towart (12:13):
So that really just gives you an overview of what the qualification is, the sort of people that do it, what its structure is, how you apply and your requirements for it. Are there any questions? Right, okay, wonderful, someone's come up with a question. Is there a timeframe on part time completion? I would need to refer to that, the current framework, you do need to keep passing over five years. I would want to check that one to see whether or not you can do it over that length of time. There are limits, you have to complete a certain amount each semester or successfully complete a certain amount each semester. We do give students who may take a break, and they can apply for a leave of absence, et cetera. If you say, for example, a student fell pregnant or something and they wanted to take maybe a year off or something. So again, I can't answer that off the top of my head, but there is a time limit for getting through and also getting through successfully.
Lois Towart (13:23):
Okay, is it possible to complete subjects individually? Yes, a number of subjects are available. What we call non award, which means you can do them on their own. You don't actually have to enroll, all you have to be is eligible to enroll. So again, it goes back to the eligibility criteria. If you're eligible to enroll in those subjects, depending which degree you're going through you, it is possible to enroll in a number of subjects individually, if you're particularly interested in those ones. So the question was [inaudible 00:13:59] complete subjects individually. Okay. Any more questions?
Lois Towart (14:09):
Okay, how challenging is the course for a student with a finance and economics experience, but no property background? There are similarities, what you would find is that there are conventions within property as to... One of them is actually how you set up a discounted cash flow. Finance people do it one way, we do it another way but it's concepts are very similar, like your understanding of your income, your value being a multiple of your income. That's a fairly basic finance knowledge point, it's also pretty much in property. The assumption that you understand how the finance side or the investment side of property works. So if you have got finance and economics experience, you're already familiar with how financial markets work and how economies work. Again, it's just a case of bringing you up to speed with how property markets, they are an idiosyncratic type of investment market.
Lois Towart (15:15):
And that's what I've found as I've gone through all my studies, et cetera. Back in the '80s, when we started studying them, they had basically all your mainstream finance subjects and they had two weird ones sitting off on their own, and that was mining analysis and property, so they put us in there with the miners. It would depend. I mean, there's a bit of property knowledge that you would need to come up with, but I wouldn't expect it to be too challenging for someone who's already doing finance and economics.
Lois Towart (15:46):
All right, another question, can they be completed online externally? Ideally we would prefer to have study done on campus because there are significant benefits in coming onto campus. Unfortunately with the current situation with the virus, et cetera, we've had to go online for a number of reasons, some are a bit difficult to go into at this point in time. So at the moment we are delivering subjects online, mainly because it's very difficult to deliver them on campus and have a student social distancing given our current facilities at the moment.
Lois Towart (16:25):
So at the moment they're online, the subjects are not designed to be online, they're designed to be in class participation, et cetera. Mainly because there's an awful lot of benefit in coming there and interacting with other students and interacting with the lecturer. I've found very much as we've been going through this wonderful experience of online learning, that there are some aspects of study that students, you just do automatically when you're in a room with those students that it's just not possible when they're all off out there somewhere across the electronic web, et cetera. And that you actually find that there's distinct benefits in how you discuss things, how you go through information and also how students pick up information. They definitely, I would say find it a lot easier to be coming on campus in terms of their understanding of the subject matter. So yeah, I can't actually say can they be completed online, at the moment everything's being done online, however, in the future, things may change. There may be some subjects available online, but again, it's very much dependent upon how things are moving forward.
Lois Towart (17:34):
Tricky, how the key differences with UTS's approach to teaching masters in comparison to other universities. Interesting, because my experience dates a while back. Also, you tend to hear anecdotal experience. We try and do very much hands on, but we also try and make our masters qualifications to be very industry focused. That is a lot of sessional lecturers or people who are delivering it aren't actually academics, they are people in industry who have industry experience. Also a number of our lecturers, including myself have had significant number of years of industry experience, and so we've had quite a bit of knowledge behind that. So it isn't really a textbook subject, it's much more a practical in terms of, this is how things are done in industry rather than this is the theory that you need to know. There's also a tendency towards, or a strong focus on case studies, what's happening in the real world in terms of understanding how these different markets work.
Lois Towart (18:49):
Okay, I think we've gone through a number of questions, as [inaudible 00:18:52], if you have got further questions there's a link to where you can send the email through to. If you want to discuss further aspects of study, et cetera, by all means, get the questions through to us. Okay, well we don't seem to have any more questions at the moment. So I will then call it the end of the session. As I sort of said, if you have got further questions by all means, send them through.
Luke Chess (19:21):
Okay, it's Luke here, marketing manager for the faculty. Thank you for your time Lois presenting and thank you for your time attending everybody. It would seem if there are no further questions that we will call the webinar at an end. Should there be any further questions you can access the faculty and the School of Built Environment through the UTS website, or you can email us on email@example.com. Okay, thank you again, Lois. And to everyone who's attended, we hope to see you studying at UTS.